'slice of life'

I think ben's dad is cute!!!!

its oct 2nd, where the heck is this show! aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggggggg!!!!!! i have been waiting forever!

Gah! Its Oct. 1!!! Where is this video? I've been waiting for weeks!

I'm so caught up in this show......I can't wait for Oct. 1st.

i want and need to watch yesterdays episode where is it, when will it be back does anyone know?

"children are a HUGE responsibility, & sometimes, women don't realize that they're not ready until they're already pregnant"

You shouldn't have sex unless your !00% shure you can handle having a child.

"i am not saying that someone should have abortions as a form of birth control, but be realistic ... not many people would ever do that anyways."

I think (I have to see if i can find that poll for you) its about half, maybe more, of women who get abortions are repeat offenders.

"... glad they're not bringing the babies into the world, because babies don't ask to be born, & when they are, they should come into the best situations possible. they are a wonderful addition to a life, but only if they are coming into a home where they can be nurtured & loved .. where they will see a doctor regularly, have clean clothes on their backs, shoes that fit, food in their bellies, and so on ..."

I think the question you need to ask yourself is when does right to life, come before quality of life?

You have no right to decide what makes a life good and worth living, but you are trying to perimeters on what makes a life good. I'm sure you can find plenty of people out there who were born into homes where they never knew if they would have there next meal and are now happy and thankful for there lives. There are also people born into rich homes who have committed suicide.
The people of Germany allowed there government to take the Jews and pretty soon they decided that Homosexuals and the Disabled were unworthy of life. They killed innocent children because they weren't born physically or mentally able, because of religion and skin color. They said this made there lives unworthy. How is abortion any different?

You should also consider the fact that not all aborted children would be born into poor homes.

hey're afraid that if they carried the little one all along & delivered, they wouldn't be strong enough to give it away .. did anyone ever think of that one??? adoption is also not a decision to be made lightly, how many of you could actually carry a baby, feel he/she kick & get the hiccups, go through labor & delivery [or a C-section] & then hand it over as if it never happened .. even the open adoptions must be quite hard, you have to watch someone else raise YOUR baby & you have to be strong enough not to try to change your mind, because legally you can't once everything is finalized

Hmm but abortion is a decision to take lightly? You have already said it's not. But your right it's much easier for the parent to just kill the child, its sad but true. You talk about the psychological effects of watching another raise your child. T What about those of abortion? Do you know it has recently been made into law that doctors in South Dakota must inform patients that they can start to suffer depression as early as two hours after the abortion? Did you know that most women suffer this because it's not really taken any different by the body and even the mind then a miscarriage? In other words they are depressed because it feels like they lost a baby not an embryo or a fetus or even a zygote, a baby. And what about the physical effects, abortion is a surgery and comes with the common risks of infection and blood clots, even the hormonal abortions have side effects. There also the strong connection between abortion in the first trimester (the most common) and breast cancer. People in Australia have successfully sued abortion clinics for not warning them.

Going back to your statement that, "bottom line: abortion is a legal procedure that any individual woman can choose if she so desires & there is absolutely nothing anyone can do..."

If something is legal does that make it right?

i think everyone just needs to get back to the point, this is a TV show .. & a great one i might add, but that's what we're supposed to be talking about - the SHOW. this is not meant to be some kind of debate room where everyone has to take control on decisions made by people they probably don't even know. what a woman chooses is HER own decision & hers ONLY .. stop acting like everyone else's choices are somehow yours to influence.

Fist of all you are trying to influence are choice to debate abortion, so don't be a hypocrite, no offense. Secondly, you tell us to get back to the show after giving a long argument about a very hot topic.

Thanks for the discussion, I hope you don't take any of this personally, if you do I'm sorry I do tend to over due things.

geez .. everyone really needs to stop with the whole abortion/adoption thing!

bottom line: abortion is a legal procedure that any individual woman can choose if she so desires & there is absolutely nothing anyone can do if she does choose that route. if a woman gets pregnant, whether it was from consensual sex or not .. & she is NOT ready for a baby either physically, emotionally, or financially .. she should NOT have to bring an unwanted child into the world that she either cannot or will not provide for. children are a HUGE responsibility, & sometimes, women don't realize that they're not ready until they're already pregnant. no, i am not saying that someone should have abortions as a form of birth control, but be realistic ... not many people would ever do that anyways. abortion is not a painless procedure, & it comes with a fee .. it's not a decision that is made lightly for too many people, & for the people that would make a decision like that without being 100% sure, be glad they're not bringing the babies into the world, because babies don't ask to be born, & when they are, they should come into the best situations possible. they are a wonderful addition to a life, but only if they are coming into a home where they can be nurtured & loved .. where they will see a doctor regularly, have clean clothes on their backs, shoes that fit, food in their bellies, and so on ...

let's face it .. sometimes, women just aren't mature enough to make the decision to carry to term & put the baby up for adoption if they don't want it .. or perhaps, they're afraid that if they carried the little one all along & delivered, they wouldn't be strong enough to give it away .. did anyone ever think of that one??? adoption is also not a decision to be made lightly, how many of you could actually carry a baby, feel he/she kick & get the hiccups, go through labor & delivery [or a C-section] & then hand it over as if it never happened .. even the open adoptions must be quite hard, you have to watch someone else raise YOUR baby & you have to be strong enough not to try to change your mind, because legally you can't once everything is finalized. not that adoption isn't a wonderful thing, it is absolutely awesome that there are people out there that decide to give up a baby they aren't ready for to a family that cannot have children of their own .. but a lot of people just can't do that, & you have to understand. it's not always about people being too "selfish", it's simply about how a decision like that would impact the rest of your life, & what kind of emptiness & regret you may end up experiencing.

i think everyone just needs to get back to the point, this is a TV show .. & a great one i might add, but that's what we're supposed to be talking about - the SHOW. this is not meant to be some kind of debate room where everyone has to take control on decisions made by people they probably don't even know. what a woman chooses is HER own decision & hers ONLY .. stop acting like everyone else's choices are somehow yours to influence.

This was an AMAZING episode.

I LOVE this tv show.

I think that it is one of the best shows ever!(:

Can't wait for the next episodeee.
Tonight!(:

What do you think?

Abortion is murder..If Amy did not want to get pegnanet then she should not have have sex. Let that be a lesson to you. She knew it could happen and she was not careful. Ricky and Amy are young but they knew what they are doing....

i think that ben and amy should stay together but not get married because they are to young but i dont think she should marry ricky because he likes adrian and i think this whole act is just to get grace or something because it sounds kind of fake. i think adrian should go talk to her dad and figure out why he left

what the use of not going to school because everyone already no about the baby!!! besides that this show is the best EVER!!!!!!!!!

I love(!!!!!!!!!!) the Sausage King! I think he is amazing. My favorite scene of the series is when he comes in with pizza and he comments about the wine not matching the cereal.

I have been trying to watch the episode since Wednesday and it never comes up. I am trying to watch again right now, but the show will not start. I can watch other things. Is something up with the ABC Website????

It really is great that people have different opinions and ideas to certain subjects and topics, and I think it's even better when people discuss their ideas and thoughts about it. What I don't believe is right is how when people express their ideas feel the need to judge others who have a different opinion or categorize them by names. For instance, the girl who commented about how she believes abortion is wrong; I completely understand how you personally could not go through with an abortion, but that does not mean you have the right to call the women who do end up making the decision to do it murderers; plus the correct wording is fetus not baby. It does not give you the right to call them irresponsible or immature, for it takes a lot for a person to go through with such a decision, because believe it or not there is quite a bit of emotional and physical pain that goes with it. Abortion is not like a quick check-up or flu shot, there are actually steps and procedures that must be done for it to happen (plus the correct spelling is hypothetically not hypathetically, so improve your grammar before you preach). That comment, however, is not really what my greatest concern is about, the comment that was a great shock was the one about rape, your non-chalant way like rape is just rape. It is great that you know a strong person who was able to continue with the pregnancy and give birth to a child, some women though are not strong enough. Not only does these women go through physical abuse, but they are mentally and emotionally scarred. Some women actually commit suicide when they find out they are pregnant from a rape, ending their own lives because the tragedy was too great. Or even worse, some women continue with the pregnancy and pass their emotional and mental abuse to the child. Would you rather a child go through their whole life knowing that they are not wanted by their mother because each day she sees their face she is reminded of that horrid incident? Do you believe that is a better life to live? Feeling unloved and worthless, possibly continuing the cycle of hurt and pain in their future relationships? Also, you talk of children being "trained", excuse me but are you living in the industrial revolution? Since when in the 21st century do developed countries "train" their children? Children are not trained, but loved, nurtured and raised by care. Stating that children can be trained properly is like saying that humans reproduce just so they can continue the circle of life or have that child just be another income in the family. Your legitimacy seemed to fall incredibly with your trained child idea. Besides you, speaking of both commentors, chastisize and judge women who have abortions when I truly doubt you do the same to women who do other harmful things during pregnancy that could make the fetus not develop all the way, sometimes not at all. Do you insult the women who smoke and/or drink during pregnancy? Do you speak of them with the same disdain and place them in the same "murder" category? Do you ridicule them for knowingly hurting not only themselves but the developing fetus in their body? Please, before you judge others and decide you know the ultimate right and wrong, remember that in the end you are also judged and scaled by your own actions and thoughts.

I have mixed feelings about Ben. At first I really liked him but now its at the point where he's too much. Its one thing to be romantic but Ben crossed the line into corny a long time ago not to mention that its kinda weird how he's always showing up everywhere... I mean HELLO! Can you say stalker?! It's one thing to love someone but like i said he's crossed the line! He annoys me!

does anyone know why i can only watch through section 4 of this episode?

I was reading one of your comments to another person...and I'd like to inform you that no woman has the right to decide for any life other than her own. A baby growing inside of her is not her own life but is a part from her. To have an abortion is to murder. I don't understand the arguement, "well, I was raped!" That is a very traumatic experience, but I don't think that's any reason to kill an innocent child that had nothing to do with the rape expcept being conceived. I know a young lady who was raped. She kept the baby which when she delivered she had twins. One of the babies died but she kept the other. He is now two years old and he is such a blessing to all of us. It doesn't matter what the situation is, there is always adoption--there are plenty of young couples who want babies but can't have them. On the other hand, there is a certain way to raise a child. You know, train up a child in the way that he should live. So no, I disagree completely. Abortion is simply murder under a alias and a human life is a human life, but more importantly a soul. I pray that you read this and understand. I will also keep all of the people watching this show in my prayers. I love the show, but the acting is lacking a little bit Have a great day everyone! God Bless!