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Another clue in the search for HIMYM's Mother





If you look at the picture, the green boxes, you'll notice that the framed handwritten letter/poem/writing in the background of Stella's home (left), is the same as the framed letter/poem/writing behind the kids in the opening of the show. According to the blogger -- who has HD and studied the scenes closely, it's definitely the same artifact.


The same artifact in two scenes, 22 years apart. The connection between the two is Ted. Now, the questions, conjecture begin: Why does Ted have the letter unless Stella's the mother? Well, if she is the mother, then it's in the 2030 scene because she's kept it all these years as a souvenir.


What if she's not the mother? Why would Ted have the framed letter/poem/writing then? Perhaps it was a gift from Stella and he's saved it all these years, a memento of happy times.


I have a problem with Stella being the mom, though. Would Dad really tell his kids about the first time he boffed mom? Would he reveal that she didn't have sex for five years? Of course, he may not be with mom in 2030, so I guess he could share that info with his kids, but it's still borderline creepy. Of course, some of the other stories he's shared with these teens -- what do you think, they're 14, 15 years old? -- has been kinda mature. "Hi, kids, let me tell you about the time I made love to two women at the same time. We called it the Tricycle."


So, what do you think? Is this the missing link or just another breadcrumb on a path that may or may not lead to mother? Please, comment and share your thoughts cause my head is starting to hurt.

loading | by ashleyewwwwSend a Compliment at 16:39 PDT, 15 May, 2008 | last edited by RachelLSend a Compliment at 14:18 PDT, 20 May, 2008

Comments (56 comments)

  1. MemoriesfadedSend a Compliment - 18:02 PDT, 15 May, 2008

    I dont think its stella. She already has an (what?) 8 year old daughter. The kids from the future look close in age and certainly not 8years apart. id put them at 17 and 15, something like that. So if it was Stella, the son from the future would need to be a lot younger looking. The prop is probably a ka-winky-dink, although very good observation.

  2. admiralSend a Compliment - 20:15 PDT, 15 May, 2008

    I'd note that Ted DIDN'T tell his kids the story of the Tricycle. You'll notice there isn't any narration during the episode- the narration at the beginning just says something like "Kids, I've told you a lot of crazy stories. But there are stories you tell, and stories you don't," and something similar at the end.

  3. Ced0107Send a Compliment - 20:58 PDT, 15 May, 2008

    i don't think she's the mother because, the mom is supposed to have been to the saint patrick day at the same bar that ted went to. It couldn't have been stella because she didn't get out much because of her daughtervthe mom is supposed to have been to the saint patrick day at the same bar that ted went to. It couldn't have been stella because she didn't get out much because of her daughter

  4. U-MOSSend a Compliment - 21:27 PDT, 15 May, 2008

    I think you're giving a budget cut too much credit.

  5. markyjSend a Compliment - 21:56 PDT, 15 May, 2008

    i think it's because the show may have a lower budget than we think and they wasted it all on britney for no reason, and NPH must cost a bit to hire, so they had to reuse props, which im pretty sure they do in a lot of shows like that, just to you know be there, i don't think the show would have thought anyone would notice anything like this which is such a small piece, in fact i wouldn't be surprised if the makers of the show didn't even realize, but if you ask me, it would be interesting for the show to go another 22 years (well minus the age of the first born, so say about 7 years) so that every year gets told, but i guess they'll all get too old, jokes might run old and boring and i highly doubt the cast will stay, but if they could keep it all up new and fresh i don't think i'd mind waiting that long to find out.

    honestly im enjoying the show so much that i forget it's about finding out who the mother is

  6. ashleyewwwwSend a Compliment - 22:46 PDT, 15 May, 2008

    well didnt she say she went to a party but left early? or was that another woman? it probably isnt her but it would be nice they do so good together or maybe its just the scrub fan coming out of me.

  7. laughing_catSend a Compliment - 20:42 PDT, 17 May, 2008

    Stella definitely did say she went to a St. Patrick's Day and left early. And there is nothing to say that the children Ted is talking to in the opening of the show are the only ones he has. Lots of couples who have kids from previous relationships have second families when they marry again. Stella's daughter would be around 30 in 2030. By the time Ted's telling these stories to his children, Stella's daughter probably long since moved out of her parents' home and furthermore she would already know how he met her mother because she would have been old enough to remember it happening. So neither of those things rule her out, although I don't think she seems like she'll be the one.

  8. nicozzSend a Compliment - 4:03 PDT, 18 May, 2008

    Up to me the mum is Stella's sister and you can see her for awhile in the St. Patrick's day episode: she is the one Ted bumps while is going to talk to Barney.

  9. yoryiSend a Compliment - 8:43 PDT, 18 May, 2008

    oookay, has anyone noticed the little fact that stella has a daughter?

  10. woodscommaelleSend a Compliment - 15:02 PDT, 18 May, 2008

    Memoriesfaded, you aren't thinking things through. There's the possibility that Stella had her daughter, then married Ted and had two of his kids. Therefore, Stella's eight-year-old would be old enough to have left home and not be told Ted's story.


    However, (and I know I'm totally contradicting myself here) I don't think Stella is the mother. Personally I don't think we will ever meet the mother, and certainly we haven't already met her - or if we have, she was brushed aside as a minor character. But this is just my own opinion.

  11. indianajonesSend a Compliment - 8:27 PDT, 19 May, 2008

    The same artifact in both the scenes could have been an error without paying much attention to the minute details.hats off to the viewer's attention to the details!

  12. kkhakiSend a Compliment - 10:39 PDT, 19 May, 2008

    hey u guys!!

    u knw wat i think!

    Robin is the mother!!!!!!

  13. ccpickreSend a Compliment - 13:51 PDT, 19 May, 2008

    Wasn't there an episode in season 2, after the Cake girl, where an ending scene had "dad" tell the kids "That was the first time I met your mother, I just didn't know it then" or something like that?


    I seem to recall an episode where Ted met a girl randomly at a bar/party, and the dad referred to it as the true first time he met their mother, but it wasn't till much later that they would meet again? And I don't recall it being Stella (although of course it wouldn't have been mentioned then).

  14. taz666Send a Compliment - 14:35 PDT, 19 May, 2008

    hey KKhaki... how can robin be the mother.. he reffers to her as "Aunt Robin." Think my fren.

  15. gobmagicSend a Compliment - 16:32 PDT, 19 May, 2008

    no no no you all have it wrong. the mother's name is tracy and he hasn't met her yet. remember in the very first thanksgiving episode (Belly Full of Turkey) when Ted is at the strip club thanksgiving buffet and he talks to a stripper who introduces herself and then says "actually my name is tracy" and he goes "that kids, is the true story of how i met your mother" and they both go WHAT!? obviously that means that in his telling of the story he wanted to play a joke on the kids by changing the stripper's name to the real mom's name and that's why they freaked out. because its the real mom's name. so its not stella and its obviously not robin (they call her aunt robin!) and also its not stella because in the one with the Goat he says how the goat is chewing on one of robin's towels and then goes 'wait robin wasn't living with us then, it must be my 31st birthday" which means they probally get back together for a little.

  16. yoryiSend a Compliment - 6:20 PDT, 20 May, 2008

    great job noticing the stripper, however, I think the writers are not paying that much attention to details, however, i would like to see you proved right, that would mean britney is not the mom, there are some strange rumors going around, and frankly, i don´t think she is the right person to do any acting, even less on HIMYM

  17. Sanders_MikeSend a Compliment - 11:07 PDT, 20 May, 2008

    To reflect on a few of the comments here,

    1)I think the writers are sticklers for detail, listen to the commentaries on the DVD's an the way that they return to stories in seasons 1 and 2, they know the viewers are watching for details because it's one of those shows.

    2) I don't think they are struggling from a low budget, it's a sitcom where the main stage takes place in two places very often; Ted and Marshall's Apartment, and MacLaren's they got the budget to run this show good. And as far as wasting it on Britney, I doubt they are. Look at her career, if anything she probably took the job for significantly less pay so she could try to make a rebound on herself. Sarah Chalke will bring in some $$$ because she has a career full of sucess and has a good reputation. Definitely not a budget cut here in my mind.

    3)The Yellow Umbrella and the Saint Patricks Day Party. We all know Yellow Umbrella was in the St.Pat's day episode, so we know the mother was there. If You listen carefully to a later episode where Stella and Ted are talking, I believe the episode entitled "Ten Sessions" Stella references to a St. Pat's day party she went to but left because it was boring or lame. She could have been there.

    4) Lots of people are responding to the news of Ted's engagement like the show is over should Stella say yes. I say, WHY?! Why does it have to stop with the revealing of the mother? Is there not more story that a Dad would tell his kids about the meeting and marrying of their mother? This isn't LOST, We aren't just waiting to find out what the hell the Black Smoke is so we can all stop watching...except I'd still watch :D, this is a story of love and friendship, THERES SO MUCH TO TELL!!

    4) I've said it once, and I'll say it again. If Stella doesn't work out, VICTORIA IS DUE BACK!!!

    That is all!

  18. bobjs08Send a Compliment - 12:14 PDT, 20 May, 2008

    Of course Stella isn't the mother, she doesn't have the yellow umbrella that has been shown in several episodes as a reference to said mother.

  19. Sanders_MikeSend a Compliment - 12:29 PDT, 20 May, 2008

    Stella could have been at the party, she left a St. Patty's day party early, maybe she left her umbrella, read my previous post. It's a possibility

  20. sensruleSend a Compliment - 14:11 PDT, 20 May, 2008

    Ted found a yellow umbrella at the bar the next day when he went back to find his cell and took it with him.

  21. wiscpunkSend a Compliment - 17:42 PDT, 20 May, 2008

    Does anyone remember the episode where Robin was upset that most of Ted's belongings were items left behind by women he had been with? So I think Stella is not the mother, and the items that show up in the future are just of the same case, whereas just left behind by Stella.

  22. steppenwolfSend a Compliment - 15:04 PDT, 21 May, 2008

    yeaa.. i dont think stella is the mother either, maybe he does marry her but the separates cuz they are only in the third season and the show is pretty successful so if they introduced the mother now, basically the show would lose that kinda "wow!" factor it has. there certainly HAS to be a connection tho, maybe she dies later on in the show and Ted keeps the poem as a souvenir.


    J_X

  23. stephbrowneSend a Compliment - 15:22 PDT, 21 May, 2008

    i dont want victoria back, she was annoying. and she had a funny hairline.


    the girl kid doesnt have to be lucy. lucy could be all grown up by then

  24. saule683Send a Compliment - 16:33 PDT, 21 May, 2008

    i don't think it's stella, cause ted would already told the children that it's their mother. or they could guess. i think that it's one of the girls whose faces we never saw. like slutty pumpkin, or sth.

  25. hraga667Send a Compliment - 2:12 PDT, 22 May, 2008

    The mom is the women Ted runs into in the club in the episode "No Tomorrow". There is no point in having Ted run into a girl during a scene unless she is important. And future Ted did say that the mother was at the club that night

  26. westhamantSend a Compliment - 8:41 PDT, 22 May, 2008

    I would like to point out something that people appear to have missed (either that or I've missed something) :


    In "The Platinum Rule" Ted is mentioning the date he is going on with Stella etc etc


    At the end of the episode, Future Ted states "It didn't work out"


    Stella can't be the mother purely for continuity reasons, which HIMYM writers are awesome at keeping up.


    Also, everyone is assuming that just because Ted proposed, Stella will definitely say yes, there's always the chance that season 4's opener will be her saying no or something.


    Part of me wants Robin to be the mother, but I'd prefer at the moment for her to be with Barney (Obviously at the end of the season, which may be the final season, I want to see maximum legendarity from the Barnacle through the season until say the finale)


    Long live How I Met Your Mother, may your reign of awesomeness continue.

  27. hachachaSend a Compliment - 12:05 PDT, 22 May, 2008

    wiscpunk has a really good point--Ted does keep souvenirs around from past girlfriends, and heck, for all we know, the poem/letter is supposed to be something normal, like how a lot of people have a Starry Night or something...

    and it is absolutely NOT Robin, the whole 'Aunt' bit should have given that away.

  28. xtidefavoriteSend a Compliment - 13:12 PDT, 22 May, 2008

    I agree with hachacha. The mother is NOT Robin. Ted called her Aunt Robin since the FIRST episode. Further, in one of the episodes Ted says that Robin got to travel all over the world and that he instead met the kids mother. I don't think Stella is the mother either because Ted is supposed to meet his wife at a wedding. This means that Stella's sister wedding will probably be where Ted meets her.

  29. Sanders_MikeSend a Compliment - 20:57 PDT, 22 May, 2008

    xtide, question

    Where does it say that Ted will meet her at a wedding? I don't remember that but I'd love to rewatch and give myself a whole other slew of theories :D

    Thanks

  30. auralaySend a Compliment - 10:46 PDT, 23 May, 2008

    Perhaps it is Stella's sister or a member of her family?

  31. ExquisiteDefectSend a Compliment - 13:33 PDT, 23 May, 2008

    Gobmagic has the best answer to all of these.

  32. xtidefavoriteSend a Compliment - 14:12 PDT, 23 May, 2008

    hey sanders,

    if you go to how i met your mother spoilers, different sources give info on what's gonna happen. that's where i read it but they're updated so it's not there anymore. idk how reliable they are though. . .

  33. tears_4fearsSend a Compliment - 19:00 PDT, 23 May, 2008

    This question has probably been brought up before, but does anyone know if the 'kids' are actually Ted's kids?


    On a more relevant note, surely if Stella was the mother, then the show would've finished - or at least the narrator would've started referring to her as 'your mother' rather than stella? Plus there's the small factor of what would be their step sister who isn't treated as a big deal...

  34. Sporky_DorkySend a Compliment - 2:40 PDT, 24 May, 2008

    Hey guys,


    after reading the comments from Westhament, I realized why they call Robin their 'Aunt'.....so its obvious that robin isn't teds sister, so why calling her 'aunt robin'??


    wait for it......


    its because she married teds 'bro'ther

    and I think after this episode this isn't too far fetched

    because he also refers marshel as an uncle, this episode is where they became all 'brothers'

    :)

  35. tears_4fearsSend a Compliment - 6:44 PDT, 24 May, 2008

    yeh, i'm pretty sure the whole 'uncle barney' etc thing doesnt mean that theyre all related by marriage/blood. haven't you ever had uncles and aunts that were just your parents friends?

  36. lingabingSend a Compliment - 9:19 PDT, 25 May, 2008

    i dont think the mother's name is tracy~ cuz the strippers name in the thanksgivin episode... strippers go by stage name. umm cant be robin cuz of the first episode "aunt robin". stella's daughter would be too old. most likely barney ends up with robin. i think they havent introduce the mother yet, if they have its probably the girl he bumped into on the theres no tomorrow ep. cant wait til the next episode. :D

  37. wiiman58Send a Compliment - 18:54 PDT, 25 May, 2008

    alright the kids don't look that far apart in age but hey u never know if Stella and ted adopted i mean u never know what if ted could'nt do it or something was wrong i'm just saying

  38. TreyZSend a Compliment - 20:38 PDT, 25 May, 2008

    If you listen to 3x01, future ted says that the real story of how he met the mother start truly at the beginning of season 3, with barney saying "...dary" (the man he had to become to became who he really is --> from a drunk boy trying to "nail" the first girl coming, to ted asking stella) Thus leads to the girl rated 12 (IMO she diserves it) who "forces" Ted to have a tatoo, wich leads him to Stella.

    Ok, but Ted is telling something about "the story with the yellow umbrella"... Well, there's no yellow umbrella in their relationship so far, and IMO, he would not have told the kid a story of how he met their mother after his demand...

    Stella is not the mother, but might leads to it.

  39. smcmenemy640Send a Compliment - 4:10 PDT, 26 May, 2008

    In the episode with Ted's 30th birthday he mentions the goat story and says Wait your aunt robin wasn't living here when i turned 30, must hav bin my 31st birthday...etc, etc


    i dont think the stella thing will work out and ted and robin will get back together 4 a while!


    and Sarah Chalke couldn't be in HIMYM for long anyway with Scrubs returning!

  40. TreyZSend a Compliment - 8:42 PDT, 26 May, 2008

    Ted and Robin together again ? impossible !

    Robain may live in their appartment 'cause Marshall and Lilly are about to live it, so there will be a room left, for Barney and/or Robin living together or not

  41. ashleyewwwwSend a Compliment - 14:06 PDT, 26 May, 2008

    okay i have read a few people saying something bout stella sister and ted getting married where did that come from did ted say something in the show or did i miss something? the only thing i remmeber about her sis was that stella invited ted to go to her sis wedding and that ted didnt like the husband..

  42. JoxxySend a Compliment - 15:28 PDT, 26 May, 2008

    Your all jumping around the same answers. I think the writers don't know ho the mother is yet, they're just leaving hints leading in any direction, so later when they do choose a mother, there will be many possibilities.

  43. laurabotosSend a Compliment - 13:31 PDT, 28 May, 2008

    Khaki, we know robin isn't the mother because in the first season, he says, "And that, kids, is the story of how I met...your Aunt Robin".

  44. thebarnicleSend a Compliment - 21:31 PDT, 28 May, 2008

    ok,I can't believe no one caught this yet!!!!everyone go watch the episode,NO TOMORROW, when Ted is talking about the mother being at the party.He and barney is not in line yet and it is raining,that's where we first see the umbrella right?Then it goes to the opening theme song and pictures.ok right after that it goes to barney and the two girls waiting in line and it has stopped raining,as ted aproches them,there is a girl walking out the club,wearing what looks like the same clothes, the girl with the umbrella was wearing or simialar at least.she looks like she's walking kind of fast as if she didn't like being there,or she's in a hurry to get somewhere else,also it is not raining so she could have forgotten completly about the umbrella,and now she doesn't need it,so she wouldn't be reminded of it.


    So I'm not sure who the mother is,and i'm not sure if we've seen her meaning her face but the girl leaving does resemble Stella.also there's a girl following the blonde I'm speaking of,and if it is Stella that could be her sister.oh yeah and in the episode Ten Sessions,Stella does say she left the st'patty's day outing early.so hopefully one of you still look back at this and give me some feed back.




  45. ashleyewwwwSend a Compliment - 2:31 PDT, 29 May, 2008

    okay again why stellas sister?


  46. thebarnicleSend a Compliment - 12:29 PDT, 29 May, 2008

    hey ashleyewwww, i don't know where the sister idea came from,the only reason i mention anything about her is that everyone was saying something to that effect.but i don't believe it's stella's sister.

  47. ZeoRanger3BlueSend a Compliment - 1:29 PDT, 31 May, 2008

    i guess we'll just have to wait and see.

  48. swarleySend a Compliment - 12:05 PDT, 3 June, 2008

    ummm so im pretty sure i heard something about ted's future wife being related to robin? somewhere in the first season if im not mistaken.. anyone else catch that?

  49. len2854Send a Compliment - 14:11 PDT, 3 June, 2008

    what about the slutty pumpkin?

    or the love solutions match?

    i'm not taking any detail like this seriously until i need to know. that's the joy of the show!

  50. himymhimymSend a Compliment - 11:33 PDT, 4 June, 2008

    In the St. Patty's Day episode, Ted bumps into a girl right before he goes to talk to Barney (this has been mentioned before). But the key is, good things keep happening after Ted does bad things. After he kisses the married woman, he goes to tell Barney that he is beginning to doubt the theory. But before he gets to Barney, he bumps into this woman -- and this interaction is clearly the good thing that followed his kissing the married woman. Some people are saying that she is Stella's sister... in which episode do we meet Stella's sister? Can we confirm that this woman is the sister?

  51. ashleyewwwwSend a Compliment - 2:01 PDT, 7 June, 2008

    exactly thats why when i was reading bout tthe mother being stellas sister i was lost cause i dont remember anything bout her or even seeing her yeah we could of and didnt know but still... hm hm hm is it fall yet?

  52. weirdeskySend a Compliment - 7:04 PDT, 10 June, 2008

    Couple of things: Apparently, Ted met the mother in the yellow umbrella incident. Or some such thing, which had nothing to do with Stella. Also, Stella's daughter would not be the age of those kids and he said he only wanted one boy and one girl.

  53. imnotyourmotherSend a Compliment - 9:48 PDT, 11 June, 2008

    westhamant: in the platinum rule Ted said it didnt work out, cus he thought he was going on a date with her and he wasnt, it doesnt mean anything about the whole mother is or is not stella thing!

    Although i would like Stella to be the mum i doubt she is, cus old ted tells his kids that although they know the story of how he met their mum (the bit about the yellow umbrella) he will tell them in detail, surely the first meeting of Ted and his future wife will have him and her and a yellow umbrella in it??

    Plus, surely whatever their mum is called, the kids would recognise it in the story, and so, even if the sitcom continues, the first meeting of Ted and his wife would have the whole "and thats how i met your mother" line in it??

    Also, if it was Stella, surely the kids would know they had a half sister called Lucy??


    On the uncles and aunts bit, i dont think any of it is relatives cus even Lilly is called aunt lilly. It isnt Robin cus that is emphasised so much and i dont think ted would get back with her as there is no point if they want different things, she should end up with Barney, they have a conection and he loves her!!

  54. munari123Send a Compliment - 21:24 PDT, 19 June, 2008

    people keep saying its the girl he bumps into in the club in 'no tomorrow' but he says luckily i din't meet your mother that night to his kids so can't be.


    don't think the name is tracy either just stripper name


    mentions also robin living in apartment on his 31st birthday with marsh and lily gone spare room and not ruling out the possibilty of it being occupied by barny and robin

  55. bouncetopher15Send a Compliment - 18:05 PDT, 21 June, 2008

    On the topic of Stacy being a stage name for the stripper, she initially introduces herself as Amber, but then reveals her real name is Stacy to which Ted responds still Ted. Additionally, I am not totally comfortable with Stella being the mother because a) I actually am not a huge fan of her character (I am however a huge fan of her on scrubs) and b) I feel like the yellow umbrella needs to be the catalyst that brings Ted and the future Mrs. Mosby together, not just Stella being like "oh wow you have my umbrella, this must be fate." Thats my two cents.

  56. hollywoodlt4Send a Compliment - 20:29 PDT, 23 June, 2008

    I'm going to have to disagree with you munari123. I feel like they put too much emphasis on that casual bump for it to not mean anything. In an insignificant bump you wouldn't see her face or hear her talk. But in the actual scene Ted bumps her and apologizes then see looks at him and says it was alright. Ted said that he didn't meet his wife that day, but he didn't actually meet the girl he bumps, and in fact the bump could have seemed insignificant to Ted at the time and not even remember actually seeing her. I feel like they put too much emphasis on that moment for it not to mean anything.

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