How Would You Fix Heroes?


Following the episode that bid a final farewell to Nathan Petrelli, Heroes is on hiatus until 2010.


While creator Tim Kring talks a good game about a fifth season pick-up, the ratings speak for themselves: Heroes averages under six million live viewers per week. It's the lowest-rated network drama on television.


We'd like to see it return for a new volume, but only if it makes certain changes.


Here are the steps we'd take to fix the series and, hopefully, ensure a long run for it...


* Turn Claire evil. Really evil, truly evil, not like Nathan-in-season-three evil. Claire is young, she's been searching for acceptance her entire life and it would make sense for her to think she's found it at the carnival. Eliminate her constant, boring second-guessing of what she wants and turn Claire Bear loose against her former friends.

* Kill off Mohinder.

* Kill off Tracy.

* No more time-traveling. Ever.

* Unite Hiro, Parkman, Peter and a returning Elle (we can dream can't we?) against Claire and her villainous carnival. Bam! There's your fifth season. No more hiding, no more whining about acceptance in society. Let these heroes actually use their abilities, pit a good faction against a bad faction - each led by HRG and Samuel, respectively - and turn the show into the action-packed adventure it always should have been.


Agree? Disagree? We have a lot of time to debate possible changes to the show prior to a new episode airing. Send in your suggestions today!


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Dec 2, 2009 4:08PM EST

AGREED, A show called Heroes, with it's comic booky theme, should have more comic booky elements, like epic fights, notorius villains OTHER that Sylar.
This philosophy of whats good and whats evil theme DOES get old, and this show is proof, I haven't watched the last 3 episodes because of the sheer boredom and repetitiveness of the previous episodes.
and A returning Phoebe, I don't like Matts boring unpowerful human wife.

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Dec 2, 2009 4:51PM EST

I agree but...BUTwhat i would do is...First: Get rid of Nathan for good.. i hope they dont birng him back in some senseless waySecond: like maxgt said stop hiding and looking for acceptance and his Mother (those characters are really boring) also like you mentioned Kill off Mohinder, Tracy (unless they make her extreamly evil), Ando should become evil and become Hiro personal enemythird: to make Samuel and his group of people will have a conflic of interests and many will leave others will stay and become the supervillans (who want to destroy humans and those who oppose his ideals) and those "Heroes" (if they can be called that since they are just people with abilities and no actual heroes) that oppose what samuel wants to do fight him and become real heroes ( Like Peter, Parkman, Hiro and others they can introduce, the ones that left Samuel)4th: i want to see Hiro beome the future hiro that appeared in season 1 and like you said the evil Clair.Last: Sylar should be an enemy of Both groups and wants to get all the abilities possible and don't try to get him killed or transformed or something weird, just make him the Evilest evil that Television has ever seen.

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Dec 2, 2009 5:30PM EST

I would develop all the exciting plots that kept being alluded to but never came to be.
In Season One, they led up to the plot of the "Exploding Man" and we got the exploding man at the season finale.
Ever since then, it's only been suspense but no action.
In order to bring back the action, they would definitely need to clean up some things, and that includes killing off a few characters, even if it means not giving them a satisfactory ending.
For example, as seen from the above posts, nobody really cares about Mohinder and Tracy anymore. Therefore, kill them off (either literally or give a brief explanation for their absence. I.E. Mohinder is back to his wife in India.)
Two, do NOT under any circumstance bring back characters that have already left no matter what. For example, the Speedy Knife man from Samuel's Carnival. He left..Leave it be.
Three, bring to a climax all the plots that have had suspense build up but no action. That includes:
Evil Peter.Future Hiro.Samuel's Evil Plan.
And small plots like the purpose of Ando's power. What's the deal with Parkman's wife? I remember them hinting something about her being the one that stole all the jewelery way back when. Still nothing about that.
I agree that in any other circumstance, these plots can be draw out to add suspense but in Heroes' case, it needs to be done quick, simply and effectively. Viewers are getting anxious so it's best to just..get to the point. :)
After Heroes has wrapped up all their loose ends, then the show can start on new, more complicated story lines. Sort of as a fresh start. The fresh start should include SOME of the regular cast but a good majority needs to be about new people with different outlooks. (No more of Claire's "I just want to be normal.")
Heroes needs a makeover, fast, to save itself.

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Dec 2, 2009 6:45PM EST

@albersh I completely agree with #4 future Hiro was such a bad ass, I'd also really like to see future Sylar (where he turned good) Syler vs Carnies <-- ok GO!

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Dec 2, 2009 7:27PM EST

....hold on. You said no more time travel, then said let these heroes actually use their abilities - doesn't that screw things up for Hiro a bit?
I want a glut of bodies like in the first season, get rid of the chaf: Nathan, Tracey, Mohinda (the actor has a new series anyway).
I'm sure Ando will go evil as seen in the vision when the world splits in two (Samuel).
DO NOT bring back characters who are dead.
As Turkeystick says more epic battles and awesome power displays.

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Dec 2, 2009 7:51PM EST

I think one of the problems with Heroes is the fact that there are very interesting ideas with immense potential ... but nothing seems to deliver.
The Exploding Man - definitely delivered! A few more displays of powers at Kirby Plaza would have been nice, but at least we actually saw the bomb!
The Virus had amazing potential, and the original plans for Volume Three, "Exodus" where the Virus was released, would have been interesting to see! It's a shame that the writer's strike impacted the show so much. I like Adam but the storyline was so rushed.
Primatech vs Pinehearst - Arthur had so, so, so much potential to be a real contender as a Villain! But he was killed off as soon as things got interesting. The whole Primatech vs Pinehearst thing could have been epic, a showdown between the two companies ... (Although they'd previously killed off a potential assassin for Primatech, Jessica =[ )
Fugitives - again, had great potential. Having the future move towards how it was in "Five Years Gone" was ingenious, and more could have happened. Rebel was a tip of the iceberg of what could have been implemented into the show - an underground group of people with abilities rising against the government and saving their own kind ... sound awesome? Well that did happen - in the comic book. The team was filled with new and old characters who'd left the show ... but it should have been on screen!
Carnies - I love the carnies. Samuel and his "family" is quite a continuation from Fugitives if you think about it - travelling all the time trying to survive. However, this season is about "Redemption" ... and I haven't really seen any. I've seen Hiro trying to redeem his mistakes ... Where was the idea of a New Company with a new agenda? Helping people with abilities? Like Jeremy? Samuel + Carnies vs New Company anyone?
I think Redemption was just too slow going. I mean, where's the actual plot? Season 1 Episode 8 we had "Save the Cheerleader, Save the World" come into fruition ... Episode 11 and we've had a brief glimpse of Samuel's family-gathering power trip? And that's it?
As much as I like Sylar, can we have less of The Sylar Show? Seriously ... Make room for other characters and Villains. Sylar's "died" more times than Nathan ...
Generations should have been joined to Exodus like originally planned, I'd say with a 12-13 episode season each, and Villains and Fugitives should've both been 20-episode seasons like Redemption.
Potential plots that were never explained but were awesome:* Bitch Claire* Future fugitive Peter* How Primatech was formed. "1961" just isn't enough!* Barbara!!
* Tracy doesn't really have a point anymore, as much as I like her* I haven't actually missed Mohinder at all ... although his father's research was interesting.* As much as I hate to say it, Claire is getting boring. She hasn't wanted a normal life since "Villains", as much as she whines about it. She wanted to be the baddass bad-guy catcher. Then she wanted to be Wonder-woman saviour of the people in "Fugitives", and now she wants to be out in the open at the Carnival. I think a clear progression and change of her ambitions would have been much, much better.* I like Lauren, but her relationship with HRG was just thrown in and retconned. I despise retcons >_<
And I have one last nit-pick about the show:In "Five Years Gone" we saw Claire and how Sylar still wanted/needed to kill her. We saw that Future Hiro's telling of Peter Petrelli to save Claire actually worked, so therefore she did in fact die. Then, Season 3 comes around and shes still alive after Sylar takes her power. Then she's the Catalyst, and Sylar couldn't've killed her even if he tried (but she CAN die, as seen with the wood in her neck after she's nearly raped by Brody in Season 1). So, if she can't die, why was she able to die in "Five Years Gone"? Cuz she was the Catalyst? ... But then Hiro took it, so that would then not make Claire the Catalyst ... so she can die now?

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Dec 2, 2009 7:52PM EST

I still love Heroes, despite it's flaws. I'd hate to see it go =[

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Dec 3, 2009 9:09AM EST

Fix it: Cancel it now.
That may be the only way to ensure this show doesn't get any worse. I hate seeing my favorite characters being treated like bad written crap, I seriously do.
But if they won't cancel it, I propose this:-Lower the number of storylines and characters. I hate waiting a month to see the next step in someone's story while someone elses story takes up the bulk of the screen time. Right now we have about 15 characters and over 5 story arcs going on. And many of which have to be put on hold for weeks while other story arcs progress. I do not like every character and story on this show, so to see the things I am interested in only every couple weeks, well I just can't stay interested. Plus, that's just way too much story to keep track of, and much of it is crap to begin with.
-Stop changing the characters. How many times has Sylar been a bad guy? And how many times has Nathan been a good guy? Is Hiro dying or not? Does Claire have a purpose on this show or not? Same question for Peter. What I don't understand is why do all these "heroes" have some sort of connection, and know about eachother, yet they don't band together to combine their abilities and fight the evil presence in this show? Matt took off as soon as Sylar left his mind, instead of sticking around and helping defeat him. Noah, who once seemed very interested in Sylar, doesn't give a damn anymore. They all know how powerful he is, but yet Peter nor Nathan seemed to care about getting help from other "heroes" they've known for years. And now Sylar is free because of their negligence. And everyone elses negligence throughout the course of this series. Sylar can easily kill them all and get them out of his way, he seems smart enough to do it and no question he is powerful enough, but apparently he is not smart at all and keeps allowing himself to be stiff armed by people too stupid to dial a phone number and say "hey, this guy that can destroy us all and the entire world is running loose. Again. For the umpteenth time. Wanna help me stop him before he kills more innocent people this time?" But I guess it doesn't matter because this stupid villain is easily duped by these stupid "heroes."
Seriously, Hiro, one who controls time and space, if you wanna stop Sylar how is it so hard to realize that all it takes is a constipated facial expression and a little creative time/space maneuvering? What a moron.
-Have equal enemies. Enough with the god mode characters; Sylar, Peters dad, Samuel, Sylar again. It got boring watching Sylar and Samuel move from one "hero" to the next in storylines. Sylar vs Matt, Sylar vs Nathan in the same exact way, Sylar vs Peter, Claire, Hiro, blah, blah, and blah. Has Samuel been through all our "heroes" yet? No wait, he still needs to manipulate Matt, damn. And he's still not done with Peter, Hiro, or Ali Larter's character (don't ask me which one, 'cause I lost count). How about we lose half these useless characters and replace them with villains for each remaining "hero." Instead of having one villain that jumps from one "hero" and storyline to the next?
-Make real storylines. Ok, for one; no one cares that Claire want's a normal life. With dominant screen time and invincibility as a power, why do we get whining as a storyline? For two; The power to see what sound looks like is about as useful to the show as the "wheelchair transformation" power was to the 1990's X-Men show. By the way, the "wheelchair transformation" power IS indeed just as lame as it sounds. But at least it looks fun. An example of a good storyline was this season's Sylar/Matt's mind control freaks. But not to be confused with Sylar/Nathan's body control crap.
-More Hayden skin. Let's face it, the boys love to look at her, and she loves to show it off. How have we gone this far into a season with only a couple leggy scenes of her?
Well I guess thats all that will fit in the comments box, hope you enjo

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Dec 6, 2009 1:55AM EST

I would like to see the carnival ran by both claire and 'the butterfry man' <- lol, and them to try to take over the world, or just maybe fight for an independent country for themselves. In that they would be revealing themselves to the world in a big way, very interesting!

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Dec 7, 2009 5:18AM EST

Right now, the best option really would be to cancel it =[ .Not this season though. That would be crappy. Maybe just until a season 6 (if possible) so the writers will have the chance to wrap up any storylines.
If they won't, I would agree to most of the changes above, and then some:-What makes scifi shows great are their seasons' interconnection. Seasons 1-3 had primatech which has now burned down. I still can't get over how STUPID it is that a major corporation bent on keeping superpowered beings in check had just one building where everything apparently was and was weak enough to be taken down by one man. Primatech had so much potential but now it's in ashes...1961 really wasn't enough. Where are our rogue company agents? Where were those artifacts in the vault?-ALICE!!! Chehkov's gun anyone? You do not bring in a powerhouse and expect her to fade into obscurity.-Evil Claire sounds awesome. She could take over the carnival when Samuel inadvertently dies.-Graphic Novels and Webisodes are supposed to be canon. Where is Sabine and her superpowered baby? Who tried to recruit Santiago if it wasn't Primatech nor Pinehearst? Where are Rebel?-Make Lauren evil. I don't know why but it just sounds logical. Weren't we supposed to have a major female baddie this season? Maybe we can have Barbara as the baddie.-Dead people should stay dead. Kill Hiro please so that his sickness makes a little sense and don't give us a "his constant time travelling changed the future" crap.-Too many Heroes and "morally gray" characters, not enough true Villains. Give us some real villains.-Give some characters the end they deserve. Don't give us a nagging at the back of our head that they're still out there. e.g. Luke, Alice, Barbara, Nathan's children (who should have manifested powers by now, right?), Samson - oh look, most of them can be villains ;)-As confusing as time travel is, it can't be written out of the show because it's one of their key elements. Though they can tone it down a bit.
That's about all I can think of.

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Dec 7, 2009 12:35PM EST

I agree with most of you are saying.
We need more villains, so I'm all on board for evil Claire. That would be really interesting, but I also want a clear line to be drawn and sides to be chosen, so that the heroes in this show actually interact more regularly. So yes, I am in favor of less story lines.
Lastly, I don't know if I'm the only one bugged by this, but can the writers please give Peter his powers back?? And please, bring back the company.

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