What really happened?

I love the show, think it is amazing and until this last episode so true to the real story and everything that i have learnt about King Henry and his wives (other than Jonathan Rhys Meyers is 1 million times more good looking!!) Anyway the point is that in this recent episode it makes out that the allegations against Queen Anne were exaggarated and mis construed! As far as my research has shown me, these allegations were true, other than the incest bit with her brother!

I realise that any adaptation can never be 100% true to life but for my own knowledge i was wondering if anyone knew any more information..


Aside from this I am please Queen Anne is going, she is annoying and conceited,so unlike a real queen should be, like Queen Cathrine, royal till the end. The casting is perfect for the characters and it made my day, even week knowing there will be another season...


Historical information please...........

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Nov 12, 2015 6:43PM EST

you can go to wikipedia.com and learn allot! I hadnt heard historically of the allegations other then her brother. I understood that after her last miscarriage, she feared for her life so she tried to talk her brother into getting her preggo so the king would think it was his. When she was doing the talking, her brothers wife over heard and told the king of the incest. I truely blame Ann's father and uncle. They were evil men just looking for an easy way to the top. And the offspring were caught in the middle. They pushed Ann, and it was horrible! And I too am glad to see her go, she and her family!! I love this show!!!

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May 26, 2008 11:16PM EDT

In regards to the comment above, I think someone took the movie the Other Boleyn Girl, a little to seriously. No record is shown that Anne ever even thought of sleeping with her brother, let a lone that his wife overheard and told the king. ( movie aren't fact) But it is true that five other men and George Boleyn were are accused of treason and committing adultery with the Queen, they were then beheaded, based on what is know considered to be little or irrelevant evidence. The allegations against Anne were of high treason, adultery and incest. It is recorded that the evidence against her was very weak. But then again Henry's personality shows us that really he needed an excuse to get another wife out the way to make room for the next one. If they didn't go quietly or gracefully he came up with some trumped up charge, to get ride of them. Anne wasn't the first and she definitely wasn't the last.

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May 26, 2008 11:18PM EDT

on wow there were a lot of mistakes in that paragraph, I think I need to go to sleep. Sorry.

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May 27, 2008 4:10AM EDT

No proof of incest or indeed any suggestion. Apparently she had three nipples and an extra finger and that was enough to convince them she was a witch, (Don't know if that's true - it's something I learned a long time ago at school) but we were definitely into the realms of any excuse would do to get rid of her and have a shot with someone else. What wouldn't Henry have given for in vitro fertilisation - he'd have been right up for sex based embryo selection - and we'd probably have a different monarchy here in Britain!Back to the programme. It's absolutely true that petty jealousys were worked out by fingering your enemy and embroiling them in a plot - and that went for Henry too. Once someone was dead, the crown (him!) could take the lands and wealth of the family, so it was a convenience too. Anne's problem was she had a surviving girl (Queen Elizabeth Ist) who would have done her dad proud as the Queen she turned out to be. However, in history, we were taught that Anne was given the chance to save herself, but she had to have Elizabeth declared illegitemate - and she refused to do that. Basically she died so that her child would still be in line to the throne. So Henry was stuck with a female heir if he had no other surviving children. I reckon Anne had the last laugh - though Henry did just keep trying.Whereas most of us would allow ourselves to be chatted up by the very delectable JRD, very few of us would have given the real Henry a shot - tall, redhaired, heavy built and round faced. What a catch!

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May 27, 2008 7:49AM EDT

Of course, re the "physical deformities" I mentioned. Logic would dictate that in these less enlightened days, any such obvious deformity would probably cause the early demise of a child and I can't really imagine a King marrying someone he thought bore such "marks" so on the balance, I think I might have been talking rot, or at the very least, passing on gossip put about by her enemies. Imagine gossip lasting for so many centuries about one woman! She must have been a heck of a woman!

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May 27, 2008 5:04PM EDT

According to wikipedia
"Recognition and Legacy
After her death, a number of myths sprung up about Anne. Many of these stories had their roots in anti-Anglican works written by Roman Catholics. It was reported by some that Anne suffered from polydactyly, having six fingers on her left hand. Others claimed she had a birthmark or mole on her neck that was at all times hidden by a jewel. Although the first legend is popular, there is no contemporary evidence to support it. None of the many eyewitness accounts of Anne Boleyn’s appearance—some of them meticulously detailed—mention any deformities, let alone a sixth finger. Moreover, as physical deformities were generally interpreted as a sign of evil, it is difficult to believe that Anne Boleyn would have gained Henry's romantic attention had she possessed any.[70]"

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May 28, 2008 12:14PM EDT

Even before the show or popular books about Anne Boleyn came out, I had done a lot of research on Anne and her family. Let me make this clear. It was proven that she was innocent of the crimes. There was no proof at all of the crimes she was accused of, unlike Katherine Howard. As for her looks, you must take into account the fact that many of the people who wrote of her, disliked her. Truer accounts of her looks stated that she wasn't a beauty. She did have a mole on her cheek (which I personally think would have been attractive but back then, it would have been further proof of witch craft) and that she had dark eyes and long dark hair. She was said to be very charming, intelligent and witty. All of the allegations towards her were indeed made up in order to secure an alliance with Spain and free King Henry to take another wife. Please do more research on Tudor history before making these comments. There are many great books on the subject. The best in my opinion is "The Six Wives of Henry VIII" by Alison Weir. Also, "Anne Boleyn:A New Life of England's Tragic Queen" by Joanna Denny. It is unfair both to the woman as well as history to cast uneducated opinions. As for being glad that she and her family fell, well in my opinion, her family wasn't any better or worst than any of the rest of the great families in English History. If there was anybody who "deserved" to fall, then Cromwell goes to the top of my list.

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