Lost 5.16: "The Incident" (Part III)

Now that it's clear that Locke is dead, it removes the possibility that he will replace Jacob in the long term. It may be that removing both Jacob and his rival is the endgame. But if not, if there must be balance, the logical replacement for Locke may in fact be Jack. In the wake of Locke's death, Jack has been acting more and more like someone locked into a destined role. If he can let go of the notion that he must control everything in the world (in other words, if he embraces the predestined nature of time in the "Lost" universe), then he could combine his former leadership role with Locke's spiritual psychology. It would be a great payoff to his long journey towards redemption.


But it's not likely to be an easy road, since it's most probable that Miles was correct: Jack's plan will probably create the Incident, not prevent it. More than that, it's likely that the Incident will toss the Oceanic Tribe back into their proper time and cause the conception issues that plagued the Others in earlier seasons. That travel back into 2007 would essentially kill Juliet (who wasn't going to survive much longer anyway), who would "reappear" in the middle of the ruins of the Swan Station. Sayid's situation is also grave, but perhaps not so much so, based on the fact that Juliet was the only one with a flashback that didn't involve Jacob.


But otherwise, it looks like everything would make the transition more or less intact. That might even apply to Rose, Bernard, and Vincent, who had at least found some measure of happiness on their own. If the rest of the Oceanic Tribe make it back to 2007 as a result of the Incident (and are then presumed dead by Richard because they were at "ground zero"), then shouldn't everyone caught out of time do the same? (This would appear to be the meaning of Jacob's final words: the Oceanic survivors are returning to their proper time.)


Most of what happened in 1977 was so predictable, right down to the fistfight between Jack and Sawyer, that it almost took away from the episode. Only Juliet's odd behavior broke it out of that mold. But even that was fairly consistent; Juliet has been making decisions based on the knowledge that her time with Sawyer was over as soon as Kate returned on the scene. Juliet's actions have contained such a sense of inevitability that it was practically self-fulfilling prophecy.


That renders her character arc rather tragic, but that fits the arc of just about every other character to this point. Even Ben's story is tragic. He doesn't even realize how long he's been manipulated, going back to when he was a child (it's a fair bet that his vision of his mother was Jacob's rival). If Jacob's rival represents Anubis, a god of the underworld, perhaps Ben was saved through the power of Jacob's rival. That might be why Ben was never allowed to see Jacob himself.


On the other hand, it's entirely possible that Jacob knew that Ben was going to kill him, and that this moment was coming. And perhaps that is why it was important to show that most of the few remaining Oceanic Tribe members had been "chosen" by Jacob at some point in their lives. Either Jacob was sure that he would be replaced by one of them, or the loss of his physical form might put him on an even playing field with his rival.


Regardless of how much of this speculation is proven wrong (and some of it inevitably will be), the stage is certainly set for the final season. Using the familiar white-out of a time flash for the end title may be more than just creative license. If the past five seasons have been dominated by the machinations of Jacob's dark rival, then this may be a sign that the final season will render matters back into balance.

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May 14, 2009 10:13PM EDT

Thanks for the Reviews dude.

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May 14, 2009 11:05PM EDT

After that episode, it solidified my thoughts that the island is Eden. Any thoughts?

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May 15, 2009 1:49AM EDT

hmm.A few things don't quite add up to me though.
How could ben stabbing the mystical jacob kill him? I mean, is he really that human? Can't be to have lived this long.
Richard said that Ben would never be the same again when he brought him into the temple to heal him, that he would lose his innocence so I think it's safe to say he was saved by the rival.
Another biblical thought, is Jacob says that you have a choice, twice, very emphasied.
And then there's the fact about the loophole. Why couldn't Jacob's rival kill jacob himself? And where did these two come from in the beginning?
If Jacob has that kind of foresight oracle-like abilities, to come visit the the important survivors, then its a sacrifice. Jacob knew Ben would kill him, it was part of his plan?
Anyone have any input?
Great Review.
Scott

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May 15, 2009 2:09AM EDT

Oh wow. BTW.
Remember when Ben and Locke went to the swan and Locke watched the tape about not putting metal things in the electromagnetic room?
The man (Miles' Dad) referred to "The Incident" that since the incident, you have to push the button to make sure the electromagnetic anomolies subside or whatever.
What's the name of this episode? "The Incident"
They just created the incident. Meaning, nothing changed. Really, they had already created the incident when locke watches that video in the future. So, They will be at least back on the island, not in LA. Because desmond will still have to put the button, and the plane will crash..
And speaking of the button, with all that advanced machinary controlling electromagnetics and such couldn't they have made a robot (or software) to send that command every however many minutes?
But anyway, back on topic.
So my question with the survivors is, this thing can't just go in a loop right? So, what's different this time around?
I think that is the question.
Anyone want my guess? I have 2. My first is that maybe they killed jacob, and the island they land on will be much different and the others run by the rival. However, you would think since the incident had already happened why not jacob being dead too?
My second theory is better. So, the bomb blows up and everyone dies right, then everything goes like normal and the plan crashes and so on right?
Wrong.
Not everyone died. Sieed, he was not obviously running and gunning with the rest of them and he may be okay. Rose and Bernard and Vincent are still at that Hut and are probobly alive so at one point there will be 2 of them running around the island when the plane crashes.
Butterfly effect. Possibly Rose stumbles upon the survivors, and her younger self, tells them what will happen and what to do. Who the others are, blah blah and something changes.
This whole time travel thing makes everything crazy. Cuz whatever happened happened.. but if that's not true, then everytime someone makes a change the future changes.
There's no way for it to make sense.

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May 15, 2009 2:21AM EDT

Nice Review Dude... Thank You...

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May 15, 2009 2:45AM EDT

another thought.
Who wanted aaron to be taken from Kate? It's been said that this boy is special, and that people want him dead and danger surrounding him. Perhaps, Jacob will posses or join with the boy. (or, in reality, already has in all the episodes we have seen.)
That's why the others tried to poision him, thats why he is so special. Maybe they will have to do some sort of awakening and then then the Jacob part of him will become concious or something like that.
As well, Miles hears dead peoples last thoughts and Hurley gets visits from dead people. If, Jacob is dead now, will he visit Hurley often? Is that why he told Hurley he was blessed, not cursed?
Jacob told Kate not to steal, and what was Kate stealing? Aaron. Which fits the Jacob is Aaron sort of thing.
Jacob egged Ben on, he knew the perfect thing to say, "and what about you?" to make Ben stab him. Sacraficed himself to somehow do something with aaron.
I mean think about how big of a part of the story Aaron has been, plenty of episodes were about him, and he is one of the only unresolved pieces. Aaron means the exalted, and Jacob means, "he who supplants, trips up another and takes his place." See, Jacob manipulated everyone to get himself sacrificed, so he could take the place inside of Aaron, who is exalted because he is the Chosen One.
I believe I'm on to something here.

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May 15, 2009 3:17AM EDT

Walt, Aaron, Claire...those are the three important chracters i need to learn about

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May 15, 2009 7:51AM EDT

WAIT WAIT WAIT - wasn't the "The Incident" already occuring before they set off the bomb? That magnetic pull - I thought that was the beginning of it.
It would very much annoy me if it turned out that it was the bomb that caused the incident.
Surely Faraday would have already considered that possibilty.

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May 15, 2009 4:37PM EDT

Wait, I´m so confused! Who is Jacob´s rival everyone is talking about? Is it the man who was on the beach with Jacob centuries ago? And why are they supposed to be rivals?
So, is (or rather was) Jacob the leader of "The Others" and the rival the leader or founder of the "Dharma Initiative"? Because there was a lot of bad blood between those groups...

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May 15, 2009 9:14PM EDT

I read somewhere that the rival might be Esua, Jacobs brother in the bible.
The show has made lots of biblical references and this could be a major part of it!

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May 15, 2009 9:22PM EDT

Jacob's rival dressed all in black.....Jacob in white....sitting on the beach. Jacob's rival physically unable to kill him as stated. Symbolic? Metaphoric? Mythalogical or Religious?
Its said that God and the Devil can only set the stage and influence decision, but not actually control free will. Not suggesting this is the case (guy dressed in black as the devil and Jacob in white as the all-mighty - no no, thats too obvious!!)...what I mean is perhaps the beings Jacob and his rival represent work in the same sense - that they can only set the stage and influence situations, but cant actually force a human to do something against their own will....which is why Ben was manipulated into killing Jacob and the being taken on the form of Locke had to convince him to do so.
And you cant ignore the many references to choice....And I also believe there was a reason Ben mentioned 'Moses' as well in those final scenes....it was almost mentioned for a reason because it seemed out of place almost...(or perhaps not??)
One cant help but wonder if the island is the stage for some kind of spiritual war game. But in any sense - I thinks its safe to say that the island's true identity and purpose has far crossed the realm of explained science and has moved into the arena of some kind of religious faith or ancient mythology where there is indeed a power struggle.

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May 16, 2009 2:06AM EDT

i'm confused as to why sun, ben and piloit guy are in the future (richard said he saw ben/kate/whoever die) while the rest are in the past? didn't they come on the same plane???? has this been explained?

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May 16, 2009 2:53PM EDT

Hey, just throwing it out there. Has anybody else thought that perhaps the smoke monster could be Jacob's rival? I'm just thinking because smokey took the form of Ben's daughter and told Ben to follow Locke's orders, maybe it was trying to ensure that Ben would kill Jacob.

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May 17, 2009 5:40PM EDT

MGN - i was about to suggest the same thing, the black smoke can only take the form of dead people who are on the island right? That's why Locke's dead body had to be taken back to the island.
to spl00sh - no it hasn't been explained, but clearly they weren't to be there in the past.

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May 17, 2009 7:16PM EDT

that was a great review and gave me so much insight as to what has been going on this season and not just this episode.

the whole rival thing i just got from you and have been so intrigued with how its going to work out.

all the mentions throughout Lost of a war going on and i've been confused by this but then when that guy was sitting with jacob and saying "i'm going to kill you... some day some how." it was like a light just went off in my head.

i could add all my theories but having read everyones here i think some of them have been mentioned and now i just have to wait until Lost comes back and satisfys my curiosity.
it going to be a long wait but im planning on enduring it.

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May 20, 2009 8:20AM EDT

I'd never considered Jacob's final words as a referral to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, etc.I just thought he meant Richard+crew were coming down to question Locke...Great review, some nail biting possibilities for next season :)

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