Heroes 'Our Father': Dead and Gone?

*'Our Father' Spoilers Included!*


After this week's Heroes, 'Our Father,' there are a few things and people gone we have to wonder about as Sylar, Arthur Petrelli, Hiro, Claire, plus Peter and the Haitian were up to all sorts of new and old tricks, leaving particular things and people seemingly dead and gone - but are they?


We found out pretty quickly that Arthur's attempt to take out Hiro didn't work, but how exactly will Hiro (with no powers) be saved from hanging on that flag poll?


And with Sylar back on his evil killing rampages, his affair with Elle turned bloody as he killed her in his usual way, and as we saw at the beginning of this episode, has even buried her... looks like that's the reason they continued to call Kristen Bell's role a guest starring one - so I guess this means Elle is really dead?


Also, the biggest death of all - the not-so-all-powerful Arthur Petrelli! What a fantastic scene with Peter and the Haitian appearing to kill Arthur, only to lead to a father-son struggle, ending in Peter really shooting at Arthur - but then to have another Petrelli stop the bullet midair, only to discover the truth of not really being a Petrelli, then letting that bullet finish its job - wow.


So is Arthur really dead? And if so, was that light of the catalyst we saw glow and go out in his body showing us that the catalyst was dead too? And if all that is true, aren't we pretty well done with the entire existing battle of saving the world from the future of everyone having powers?


What do you think? Who and what are really dead and gone after this episode?


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Dec 9, 2008 2:38PM EST

Well no they are not done saving the world from everyone having powers, because Nathan still has strong beliefs in what they are doing. And from previous episode where Peter finds out that Nathan has sided with his dad and continued the operation his father started. I think Arthur is really dead, but for now because once the bullet is removed from his head he is suppose to come back, same thing happened to Peter in a previous episode. So its all kind of up in the air, if they can keep Arthur dead then good, but Nathan is going to continue is fathers work and I know that Peter won't have the heart to take out Nathan.

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Dec 9, 2008 2:58PM EST

Nathan will become president, hunt down the dangerous people with abilities, is what I believe.
And I do believe Arthur is gone, how can he be able to use the power to heal when his central nervous system will be destroyed, as I believe it would be around about where he got shot, which is why they have to be shot there to die, I'm not sure my information on that is fully correct as I'm not a Biologist, but that is my opinion on it.
To be honest, I'm glad in a way to see Sylar back to his old self, even though he doesn't actually need to kill them, but as he said he does enjoy the feeling of it. I enjoyed him as a good guy but it's better this way. The way it is supposed to be.
Overall, I enjoyed the episode, the Haitian and Peter make a good pair.

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Dec 9, 2008 3:01PM EST

To add to one of my points,
I suppose you could cut off their head and the destroy it completely.
I'm sure there is countless ways to kill them. Shooting in the head probably just the easiest, but if i was Peter, i'd wanna make sure he was dead for sure, even if he is his dad.

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Dec 9, 2008 3:13PM EST

I wonder if Arthur is really dead....remember, he did take Peter's powers away which included healing ability of which Peter in some ways absorbed it from Claire when he tried to save her. I don't know...that's just my guess.

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Dec 9, 2008 6:15PM EST

If I was Peter I would want my dang powers back first!!! Course he must get them back at some point, since he does have them in all his futures....Pretty sure Elle is gone, darn, really liked her and Sylar together-they had good chemisty, but I also like Sylar the bad guy too. It was getting harder and harder to know who the bad guys were anymore

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Dec 9, 2008 6:35PM EST

I thought Arthur needed a shot in the back of the head at the base of the skull. thought that was the only way to kill him, according to Angela.
Peter will get the injection so that he can re-acquire his powers. Probably Hero too.
Glad Kristen Bell is gone. But I like the bad Syler better than the gushy boyfriend Syler.
Does the Catalyst have nothing to do with Claire's powers?

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Dec 9, 2008 6:54PM EST

That's a good question, Jackie, about the catalyst's involvement with Claire's powers. So as we saw last night, Future/Current Claire convinced Noah not to let the company have baby Claire to give her the catalyst... so was that giving her powers or did she have powers already at that point, just no catalyst? A little confusing from what I was getting. Also, I'm wondering if Nathan is going to go villain on us now that he's gotten into giving the formula... maybe there are still some interesting developments to be had despite Arthur's death seeming to end a lot of this!

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Dec 9, 2008 7:22PM EST

well i hope Arthur's gone forever but then again he may be the only one who can save Hiro since even if Peter gets his power back he wont have the powers he absorbed in the first place. and it'll take a long time to wait for somebody who is injected to have the time power and the chances of Ando ending up with the power are slim.As for Nathan and his father's mission, I hope he gets out of it I mean did you see the marine, scares the hell out of me. My philosophy on this is the best leaders are those upon whom power is forced(Peter) rather that those who seek it (Nathan).And the future is not saved in my opinion because it seem that Suresh made a whole lot of that "potion" wich could cause a lot of problems and there must be enough in there for a least a 1000 people the majority.
oh and i dont think the light has anything to do with the powers since baby Claire had her power way before.

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Dec 9, 2008 7:23PM EST

The catalyst will have nothing to do with Claire's powers because she survived the fire her mum created when she Claire was a baby, hence the adoption.

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Dec 9, 2008 9:01PM EST

I still don't understand how Arthur traveled back in time to catch Hiro... How does that make sense?

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Dec 9, 2008 9:57PM EST

Jonah... I think when Arthur takes people's powers he absorbs them for himself right? Well when he took Peter's power, that would have included time travel. I was wondering about that too but I guess that's the only explanation. But why hasn't he used any of Peter's other good powers, like invisibility? I REALLY miss Peter having his abilities, I hope they give them back soon.

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Dec 10, 2008 2:50AM EST

I predict more time traveling and healing of people, Whatever happens i think it's going to be nifty.The only thing i don't like about this show is how they underplay some people's powers. Like Hiro, he could have ended everything in the first season, but then i guess that would be boring.

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Dec 10, 2008 4:33PM EST

I don't understand why they need to save hiro because if he is stuck there, won't he just then have to wait those 16 years or whatever then meet them. Or now hiro has the chance to stop sylar and arthur or something.plus im near sure in season two it says people who heal only die if they are shot in the head and that there was no way of coming back from that.All i know is the world still isnt saved and that peter should get his powers back

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Dec 10, 2008 5:53PM EST

if claire is no longer the catalyst, then what was the "special" thing that sylar saw inside claire? or does she still have the catalyst thing in the present time, but arthur had it as well from the past? very confusing....also a bit annoyed at the ease with which arthur managed to get the catalyst....makes you wonder why he couldnt just do that to claire instead of waiting for hiro to take the catalyst...
im not really sure where they are taking sylar's character anymore...if hes not one of the petrelli's whoes side will he be on - nathan's or peter's....or his own side lol
is anyone else wondering why people like mica and his cousin (? - forgotten what her name is and what relation she is but the one who can do anything she sees) are no longer important to the storyline?...they had pretty cool abilities...
im not entirely sure about arthur's death...i think he will make some sort of appearance again...especially since he was able to cheat death once im sure he will find a way to do it again

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Dec 10, 2008 6:30PM EST

wait im lost... i know this is out of the initial question but how did the future peter get his scar if he has the ability to heal?

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Dec 10, 2008 9:03PM EST

Your right it was the back of the head. Daddy will come back to life.

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Dec 10, 2008 10:56PM EST

Peter's scar must heal as a scar before he gets his powers back. It would explain why Future Peter has a scar since he got it when he didn't have his powers.
I think Arthur will come back because Angela said it needed to be a shot at the base of the skull, or something like that.
Onesideddie: I read something earlier this week that Monica (Micah's cousin) returns in the Fugitives chapter. Not sure about Micah himself.
I also agree that it seems stupid that Arthur didn't take the Catalyst from Claire except that he doesn't know where she is since she fell off the grid after visiting with Elle. But if he didn't know where she was, how would he know where she went? If he had a copy of Issac's comic book, it would detail where Claire was right? It does seem stupid he didn't just show up and take it at any time after he wiped Hiro's mind and stole his power.
And to that effect, how did Hiro retain his powers to travel thru time if Arthur took them when he wiped Hiro's mind. He took Peter's powers completely. Did he leave Hiro with the powers because he knew Hiro would take Claire 16 years in the past?
I'm so confused.

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Dec 11, 2008 1:55AM EST

okay i think alot of people need to watch heroes again in order to get it.Claire never had the catalyst in her. she just thought she did bt as hiro went to he past sh never got it. Sylar says that she is really special because of her abiltiies and that she cant die like adam. Arthur might be or might not be dead. even if they shoot him at the back of the head when the bullet is removed he comes back to life like peter in season one when sylar kills him.u guys hav to remember that people come back to life in heroes. claire has died twice already, HRG once, sylar once, peter once... well u get what am saying.
also arthur didnt take hiros powers in africa. he just wiped his memory. nd ando stopped arthur b4 he was done. nd if u remember hiro ran away with ando b4 arthur could get them.

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Dec 11, 2008 12:31PM EST

shouldnt arthur hav com back 2 life striaght away cos remeber in that episode wen claire, meredith and her mom is captured by tht puppet guy- Doyle and claire is shot in the head but the bullet is "pushed" back out of her head

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Dec 11, 2008 6:01PM EST

I think it may be also possible, that the further story plot includes the supersoldier nathan created, as a new villain who got corrupted by his powers.
What the characters should do in my opinion is:-Chop arthurs head off and burn it-Peter should get his powers back, or at least take nathan with the help of hiro to the future, to show nathan how it's gonna be if everybody has powers. (if the future is still like this) so they can match their actions to a similar goal and not fight each other (peter and natan, i mean).

What I find a bit confusing with all that time traveling: At the beginning of the season, the "future" peter showed the "present" peter how the future is (going to be), when everybody has powers. Then in the rest of the season all the good guys try to change the future by killing arthur. BUT: They shouldn't be able to change it, because all the things that happen during the season should have happend already, when the future peter shows peter the future at the beginning of the season..
Do you get me? :D Do I have a point or not?
And shouldn't you be unable to "see" the future, because it doesn't exist yet?

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Dec 12, 2008 2:08PM EST

First off: the time travelling is confusing! I tried many times to understand a paradox but it always makes me dizzy in the end... but I'm not alone as long as the heros writers continue to confuse you and everyone else there is a proof that time travel theories are confusing...to anyone.or so.I believe you have to cut of the head of a character like clair or adam. When they chased adam in the first season, someone (might have been Angela) said he could only be killed by separating the head from the body...meaning: Arthur will be back, probably!
Next: they arent nearly done by fighting off the evil that is to come. The completed the formula and gave this soldier powers. The had a huge pot of that formula thingie and it might last for thousands of people...

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Dec 12, 2008 5:43PM EST

Aerrow: claire was nt shot in the head by that puppet guy. it was her chest. it was wolverine who got shot in X2. i think u r confusing the 2.blackdot: after future peter came to the past he made a butterfly effect because he changed too many things. After he came back the present (where we are now) which was the future at that time was changed. so there were slight differences in the future. an example of this is sylar getting claire's powers and all the level 5 villains escaping.

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Dec 13, 2008 9:09AM EST

ive been reading through some of your comments and have just had a brainwave.hiro is stuck in the past with no powers agreed? but isnt he stuck with a younger version of himself? so whats stopping his older self from teaching his younger self how to timetravel? just a thought :D

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Dec 13, 2008 9:48AM EST

I think Ando will get powers, but maybe not time travelling. As seen when Hiro still had his powers and he saw Ando betraying him. Since it had been pointed out that Peter will have a scar in the future, and he just got one, the future that we saw should be true.Not sure whether Arthur will come back though.

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Dec 13, 2008 9:52AM EST

Hiro should have told his father or mother that Arthur was the one who took Hiro's memories. Maybe Arthur would have really died then. But like what others said, it would be a boring and short show.

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Dec 13, 2008 9:22PM EST

hiro cannot teach his younger self to time travel because he might create a time paradox then. i think someone will hav to rescue him. then he gets his powers back from the formula.

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Dec 14, 2008 4:28PM EST

arthur can't come back b/c he wouldn't be able to heal... the haitian would prevent him from healing with his powers, right?

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Dec 14, 2008 4:51PM EST

The Haitian doesnt erase abilities forever. Arthurs healing-abilites are only "blocked" as long as the haitian is near. And I dont think that he will always be around Arthurs body...

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Dec 14, 2008 5:17PM EST

Arthur can only come back to life when the bullet is removed from his head.

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Dec 14, 2008 6:36PM EST

"if" arthur is actually dead, nobody has time travel abilities anymore since he took both peter's and hiro's abilities... either they would have to do something like herbie5507 said where hiro uses his former self, or somebody new will be injected or found with time travel ability. Obviously the writers will not leave hiro out to dry, so I cant see any other options assuming arthur doesnt come back to life.
However, I expect arthur to come back. the only relevant evidence we have of what head wounds do to "healers" other than angela's word is when claire had that branch through her head in the first season, which of course was healed as soon as removed. I dont see why a bullet would be different.

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Dec 14, 2008 8:57PM EST

Peter wouldn't chop his father's head off and incinerate it, but the Haitian would. Plus, the latest visual novel confirmed that he is in fact dead. They wouldn't have done that if they wanted the mistery to keep going. My bet is that Sylar's dad will have a big role on Fugitives.

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Dec 14, 2008 10:43PM EST

That really was an awesome episode, the best of the series in my opinion, i don't think Arthur will be back for some time and it will allow for some Screen time/Character development for Nathan Petrelli, BUT WHO ARE WE FORGETTING? - Ando get's red lightning powers! Yeah! now that will be interesting! oh, and Peter will get some sort of power too i suppose. On sylar - Yeah, its getting a little out of hand now about which side he's on, but i guess that's why this series is called 'Villains', Elle got owned and rightly deserved too, she should not lie to our friend Sylar, (about the new power he aquired...In series 1 or 2 he got a power that allowed him to have amazing hearing abilities, and he could detect if someone lied or not by the rate of their heart beat? - what happened to that i wonder...but never mind) The cake bit was hilarious, and the elavator..hehe, epic when he's evil.
AND ANOTHER POINT - Won't Hero also be in the present time - But 16 years older than everyone else? surely Dapheny will track him down and get him to the formula - Which means he'll get time travelling again - That's what his "Gene" pattern is set to, so he won't get a different one this time - zoom back to the past and save himself? i don't know, but he really should be involved still, poor hero. (Ando - YEAH!)

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Dec 15, 2008 8:00PM EST

ok to be honest im a little confusedwhen peter fired the gun the Haitian was preventing auther from protecting himselfbut then wouldnt the Haitian's powers also of stopped sylar's interference?or am i missing something?but anyway i think it was a great episode

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Dec 15, 2008 9:53PM EST

I have another question...The future peter said Sylar was the only key of winning this, and when past peter goes to the future, Sylar calls Peter his brother, and Sylar is not Arthurs son... MEANING that Peter is not Arthurs son or Nathans brother?

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