I cannot believe Chase did that


I cannot believe Chase did that and Foreman did not turn him in. I know House would have even if he would have been forlorn.


Chase just crossed the line. Foreman would not be able to trust him to do what he should do as a doctor and would second judge his actions. It would be best for both of them to do the right thing, fess up, and deal with the consequences. One never knows it could all turn out with him [Chase] keeping his license and with no jail time.


I am on pins and needles waiting for the show down that is next week's episode.

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Oct 5, 2009 11:01PM EDT

i disagree.honestly, put yourself in the same situation in which Chase was in. wouldn't YOU kill someone if YOU had the power, knowing that if you did, it would save hundreds or even thousands of people? ofcourse what he did crossed the line, but in essence, it was for the greater good.

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Oct 6, 2009 1:24AM EDT

Yeah, I can't believe he did that either. Let's see them tip-toe around this one :D

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Oct 6, 2009 3:52AM EDT

Talia, cnagirl22,
it is kind of naive of you to think that just because the main tyrant died, no more massacres will folow, and people of this far away African country will live happily ever after. It doesn't work that way. Someone's gonna step up and continue what that "president" started, and maybe even be more ruthless.People in charge always have to make hard decisions. I doubt that any president/ ruler is completely without a sin.Tyrant said to Chase that he was trying to do what's best for his country.And actually it was completely not Chase's business. He is a doctor, he made an oath to help anyone without judging.Just like House said in season 2 - "Well, let's work out a list of what medical treatments a person loses based on the crime they committed."Chase crossed the line and deserves at least some kind of punishment. By the way, if that happened in reality and people found out that African ruler was deliberately killed in USA hospital- that would probably have started a war.

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Oct 6, 2009 5:40AM EDT

no one ever has the right to take a life, especially a doctor, who's job is to save people, no matter what. For god sake's even if the man was a tyrant, I myself could never live with the conscience of being reponsible for taking a life. Yeah, he saved millions, but at what cost? Tainting all those he save with murder? He's no better then the tyrant himself wouldn't you agree?

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Oct 6, 2009 6:53AM EDT

I think what you are pointing out is excactly the type of controverse this episode wanted to point out.
On one hand, there are people who would deserve death. Either because of their past deeds or because of what they are going to do in the future. On the other hand, who has the right to judge and how does he know for sure what's going to happen in the future?
It's a philosophical question about where to draw the border between right and wrong. When does "beeing a criminal" start? when the crime is over? when you'r in the middle of it? when planning it? when first thinking about it?
I don't know if there even are answers to these questions that could be considered correct. But still those are questions worth asking.

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Oct 6, 2009 7:48AM EDT

Are we absolutely sure this doesn't go on - albeit in a smaller way, and not usually dictators?

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Oct 6, 2009 9:04AM EDT

I do believe Chase faced a philosophical question as liquidmind suggests hence everyone will not be satisfied with a outcome.
I would not be able to live with myself knowing that I knowingly killed when I promised to do all that I can to save their life.

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Oct 6, 2009 10:24AM EDT

Regardless of how you feel about this, there is no way the writers are going to let this go. I think Chase is going to be dealing with this the rest of the season because you can't kill somebody without feeling the consequences.
This thread does remind me of a quote from a very wise old wizard. "There are those who live that deserve death and those who have died who deserve life; can you give it them? Do not be so quick to deal death and judgment."

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Oct 6, 2009 11:35AM EDT

Guys... i think there is going to be a twist...I think Cameron did it, and Chase is covering for her. This is surely not over, and a twist would do good. Finally, Cameron will tell the truth. I heard a rumor anyway, that she will have to quit the show. It wouldn't be the first time for Chase doing something unexpected in the name of love.

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Oct 6, 2009 12:42PM EDT

oh.. if the rumour turns out true, i hope Chase still stays. after all, he's quite cute :)but i doubt Cameron did it.

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Oct 6, 2009 1:01PM EDT

It will make no sense to have a twist that Cameron did it, since he was the one that went for the blood sample, he signed the morgue sheet, and he was all guilty at the end of the show, while she was sleeping comfortably.

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Oct 6, 2009 1:51PM EDT

wouldn't that be something if Cameron did have something to do with it? interesting?

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Oct 6, 2009 8:38PM EDT

I was shocked too. But then I was thinking about it: what if I were in his shoes? The man practically admitted that he was going to commit genocide, killing hundreds of thousands of people to "cleanse" his country. It's like, if you went back in time to right before Hitler began the Holocaust. You're all alone in a room with him...no one will be there for ages.... Are you just going to walk away with the knowledge that he WILL cause the death of SO many people? I wouldn't. And I wouldn't have let whats-his-face from the episode live. Chase made the right choice, and Foreman did too.

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Oct 6, 2009 10:52PM EDT

seriously LesterL? You think those saved would be better off dead, than "being tainted" by one tyrant's murder? wow.

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Oct 7, 2009 2:47AM EDT

Chase has most certainly overstepped his bounds as a Physician. It is not the doctor's duty to go save the mass, it is the doctor's duty go save the patient, regardless of who it is. He had violated the first line of the Oath, and if I were his colleague I certainly would never trust him again.
This is a job. Not a quest.

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Oct 7, 2009 7:48AM EDT

So, basically someone should just do his job, and not be worried about the morals behind it? His job should be more important than his conscience as a human being? That was more or less the excuse of a lot of nazis in extermination camps who "just followed orders".

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Oct 8, 2009 11:57AM EDT

matxil,
even in Nazi Germany most of the doctors acted according to the oath. If you are a doctor you have to heal, not kill. Chase is not god to decide.Plus, politics is complicated. Nobody knows what consequences Cases' action may lead to. Country could drain in blood because of what he did.

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Oct 8, 2009 1:57PM EDT

margaritafedorova,
i totally agree. we all have to take into account what consequences our actions would lead to. noone can definately say thant what he did was the best thing for that country. Doctors decide that they will heal others and not kill them. so all in all he did not do what he was suppose, mandated and promised to do as a doctor. when it comes to not doing what your profession calls you to do you need to get out.

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Oct 10, 2009 4:37AM EDT

Quite frankly, I find it hard to believe and a bit disturbing that a person would actually want a doctor to cure an individual/patient that is planning on killing thier son, daughter, mother, father, etc...(and has the power to do so without adhering to any consequences). Essentially, genocide! Yes, I am quite aware that Doctors take an oath, but to think that the world is simply soooooooooo black/white, is just crazy! Maybe it would be a different story if every man, woman, and child played by the same rules, however, that is just NEVER the case and it is NEVER going to happen.

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Oct 11, 2009 11:07AM EDT

because the world is not black and white should one think that by killing the person that is planning to kill a family member it is going to stop their eventual death.
all choices have consequences and professions have certain obligations. no one likes to do what they have to or suppose to do all the time and just like all of us that have to live in this world that is not black and white we should make decisions based on the choices we have made in life.
if a person decides to become a doctor they have decided to care for and help those who are under their care as long aas it is in their power. if they do not want to do that everytime then they need to get out of the business and find something else to do that is more intuned with their conscience.
both chase and foreman chose wrongly as dictated by their profession and their choice to become physicians.

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Oct 11, 2009 1:23PM EDT

I cannot speak for anyone else, and truthfully, I would not want to, however, if my 4 - year - old son was the target of someone's plans, I would do W-H-A-T-E-V-E-R it takes to save his life.....legal or not...just an instinct I WILL NOT apologize for that I have.
If I am somehow an unethical or perhaps evil individual for having this type of mindset, then so be it!

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Oct 11, 2009 5:18PM EDT

tru cnagirl22 tru

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Nov 1, 2009 3:59PM EST

i have a question.. wat did house to do the neighbors hand im confused?

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Nov 2, 2009 2:42PM EST

it is a mind trick that has been used for a few years by both psychologists and magicians I guess. Here is a wbsite that I found that talked about it

I have another one but that is on another computer that I found using stumbleupon.
it is really amazing. I almost dod the trick but of course I did not have a rubber hand lying around. if you end up doing it let me know how it went.

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Jan 14, 2010 6:47AM EST

Two wrongs don't make a right.
Or in other words, yes, Chase was wrong to off Mr. Hypothetical Hitler, but turning Chase in after the fact would have been wrong too. If the authorities had got involved, Chase would not only have lost his med. licence, but ended up in prison, and whom does that benefit? Not like Chase is dangerous to society and needs to be stopped. He's not likely to ever be in a similar situation again, but he IS a young and apparently talented doctor who IS likely to help a lot of people until he retires. And his crime isn't that black and white. Whether it was morally wrong is debatable, and his intent was certainly good. So what would Foreman have accomplished by turning him in? Justice? Please.
Oh, and there's no way House would have turned him in. House has absolutely no respect for authority. Or the law.

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