Echoes, Silence, Patience and Grace (or, the most boring OTH episode of the season)


Was it me, or was this episode of One Tree Hill a total snooze-fest (complete with unending, snoozy background music that was less memorable than usual; sorry Weepies and Jonathan Rice, who received the episode's music credits)?


Basically, everyone was in uber-serious mode, talking out their problems with whomever would listen, paid or gratis.


For Haley and Nathan (now together again, but still struggling) this was a therapist/marriage counselor with a patronizing British accent.

For Brooke this was an adoption counselor (and thank goodness she was rejected, "accelerated lifestyle" and all).

For Dan it was his parole officer.

For Lucas it was Andy, Karen's "friend".

For Peyton it was her friend Max, played by series creator Mark Schwahn, who I think owned a record store way back when, but I can't honestly remember (and Peyton didn't appear until about 25 minutes into the episode, which made me rejoice). I wish Peyton would A) realize that Lucas is not such a catch so that B) she could move on, allowing her character to stop being such a one-dimensional loser whose sole purpose is to pine for Lucas.

Even little Jamie confessed his many problems during show and tell.

Notice how Mouth wasn't included in this hour-long snoozy montage because he doesn't actually matter...


All of these confessionals/heart to hearts really embraced the "echoes" portion of the episode title, mirroring different words and speech patterns as they switched from person to person (for example, Haley and Nathan told the marriage counselor something wasn't fair and then the camera switched over to Brooke telling the adoption counselor that things weren't fair...). I get that the whole thing was supposed to be clever and artsy, but I just found it seriously boring.


At least 50 minutes into the episode, we finally get slightly more action, with Lucas going to visit Lindsey. He claims that his chest aches because she isn't with him and that he'll wait for her yada yada yada. Sure he will. Until Peyton shows up in his house naked and threatens to hurt herself unless he sleeps with her. At any rate, Lindsey continues to "believe in" Lucas' supposed writing ability and says that she still wants to edit his book...you know, the one that is indirectly about Peyton. Kind of like his first book (that Lindsey is quite the masochist...).


We end with what is supposed to be some optimism; Haley playing the piano, Brooke playing with Jamie, Nathan throwing a basketball, etc. with a cheesy voiceover about believing. I guess it was sort of sweet.


What did you all think of the return of One Tree Hill?? Who else detests Peyton?

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Apr 15, 2008 5:00AM EDT

i like peyton.. and you know what piss me off is that lucas stands there and tells Lindsey that he will wait for her he wants her. what the hell is up with that didnt he tell peyton that hed wait for her! and look where that ended very badly! and to top it off i didnt see him who was supposedly in love with peyton running to tell her ill wait for you i feel the pain in my chest because i love you.. bull.. this is just something to keep his mind off of peyton.. if anything peyton should just move on and see who gets all pissy then.. but thats my input. i think peyton is a really good character and a lot of people can relate to how shes taking things i mean not every relationship in her life was grand and not like she had someone there that was a mentor in relationship wise. so i can see why shes taking it a little hard because to finally realize hey he was the guy she wanted to spend the rest of her life with.. its kind of hard when you tend to shut people out because of what happen in your past. so i can see why a lot of people love peyton!but the episode was touching with nathan and haley.. love that part but wasnt to impressed with lucas and lindsey.. get over it she left you!! just like peyton supposedly said no.. anyways cant wait for next week!! looks like its gonna be good!!

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Apr 15, 2008 6:14AM EDT

I too doesn't like the character of Peyton very much. I rather have Lindsey and Lucas together than Lucas with Peyton but of course, the best couple is still Brooke and Lucas. Brooke and Lucas match the most, and it's more fun to watch them together, seriously. However this probably won't happen since obviously the show will very likely end up having Peyton and Lucas together, which i would hate to see.
and yes, i agree with you. episode 13 was very boring. I think episode 13 is the only boring episode out of the whole one tree hill series.

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Apr 15, 2008 7:26AM EDT

You read my mind! I've always been a Peyton Lucas fan, but for some reason, in this episode, i really couldn't stand her! This episode even had me questioning: "Why do i watch One Tree Hill again?", but i hope next week's episode will remind me. I think Sophia Bush did a great job, i could really feel the emotion from her. But Peyton was just unbearable this episode, with the overused lines and constant PINING. I don't know, i just really didn't like this episode - too cheesy, even for OTH.

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Apr 15, 2008 8:17AM EDT

Peyton has to be the most boring main character. Brucas was the best match. I also think that Peyton should end up with Jake as they really did work well as a couple. Ep 13 was without a doubt just a random filler episode and hopefully there isnt going to be anymore like them.

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Apr 15, 2008 9:02AM EDT

The only 2 parts that are fun to watch in episode 13 are: 1. Brooke talking about adoption 2. the parts Jamie is in 3. Lindsey and LucasI'm serious. i have to skip over all the other parts on sidereel because I am simply falling asleep.

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Apr 15, 2008 1:00PM EDT

i also detest peyton, i actually feels sorry for the actress playing her, she's a good actor playing an aweful role!!! but i love the show. love haley and nathan!!!

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Apr 15, 2008 1:10PM EDT

I beg to disagree with you people saying that the episode was cheesy. Re-evaluation of themselves is what I think the characters needed before they start off again. It made me feel reminiscent and I realized how much detached they were from their old lives. And starting from this episode, they'd have the chance to stay in touch with who they were way back then. I guess I'm missing how they used to be.
In sum, I never found the episode boring. In fact, it's so far the best episode for me - with Dan coming back and all. I'm looking forward to how he would again reek havoc in Tree Hill.

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Apr 15, 2008 1:12PM EDT

I never really liked Peyton and Lucas. But in this episode, I started rooting for them. I don't like Lindsey. She's not even pretty.

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Apr 15, 2008 1:13PM EDT

I have to say that I agree with you on more than one of your statments. I am getting very tired of Peyton pining over Lucas and I wish that mark would hurry up and take her character in a new direction. The ending of this weeks episode is what bored me the most. The fact that they repeated that boring statment about hopes and dreams was completely unnessary. Although, I did enjoy seeing everyone showing some interest in their own personal interest. You are completely right by saying that Lucas is not such a catch. I could name a couple of other characters that would be perfect for Peyton if she would just get over Loser Oops! I mean Lucas. One couple I never tire of hearing of is Naley! Naley Always and Forever!

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Apr 15, 2008 1:41PM EDT

i did find it one of the most boring episodes but i do love the show, i was happy to see nathan and haley together again and end up having sex in the end, i love them!

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Apr 15, 2008 3:19PM EDT

I found this episode really boring, too, so I agree with that statement. I hated the looooong monologues of each of the characters, and hated the fact the Lucas and Peyton still haven't seen each other after the failed marriage!BUT- I think Leyton is the most anticipated couple, common Luke - u love her! And I didn't get one thing - why did Peyton say that Mia's gone???? Where did she go? oh, what, she is a big rock star now and she left the label? they never said that in the past episodes!
THE worst possible thing is Brooke's baby adoption! common people, she is like THE hottest girl on the show, with THE hottest potential boyfriend Owen - what the hell is baby for????! she is only 22 and she has Jamie for that matter! that was the boring moment ever, i like the other, super-hot and funny Brooke better than this boring, always crying about her irresponsible parents.....
Hope the next few episodes will have more action, especially with Lucas and Peyton.Also hoped for Brooke and Owen's relationship and some HOT sex scenes, but unfortunately they didn't even date.
oh well

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Apr 15, 2008 11:40PM EDT

I wouldn't say that this episode was boring...cause as someone said before they were just re-evaluating themselves.And If you actually were watching before you would realise that OTH is actually solely heavy monos, sad music and drawn out action...which is kinda why i luv it.Seriously, i love the whole Peyton and Lucas saga, but i would really like to see the P. Sawyer of the last season(?). Where is the kick ass chic that found herself after she and b.f.f Brooke kicked the shit outta crazy stalker guy Derrick...and if they bring him back...it might add a lil bit more to it.Now back to Peycas....we would love to see her getting the point and moving on from lucas..so he can wake the hell up already.How many more delusions can we take from Lucas? Not many i tell ya! We've reached the brink so you guys really need to put them in a relationship now so we can move on from there.Damn man...they skipped the four years now they need to skip the whole "i'll wait for you forever shit" we want it right now...we've been through the whole unrequitted love and lust between em so lets give em a relationship and start something new.Lets show other tv shows how its done...cause seriously this is sooo not new.BTW Mia's on tour so that's wat Peyton meant.As usual glad Naley is back together...but honestly am tired of hearing Haley accuse Nathan and Nathan apologising...Though that is kinda why we watch em.Luv the fact that sych* daddy's back in town too...Throw in those long awaited OwenBrooke scenes and some more sycho momfakebrocrazybabysitterphsycopops(andprollysome creepytherapistaction) and i'll call it a good day...lol!

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Apr 16, 2008 3:01AM EDT

totally agreeing with most of the comments ... except for the hating Peyton... shes like the best character in the show ... but in this episode she wasnt that great niether was the ep.... scratch that it was awful... except for Brooke's speech after she got rejected and Naley scenes.i hope we just had to suffer through this episode to set up for the start of some really good episodes. hopefully involving peyton sort of moving on so lucas realizes that he cant lose her and him trying to get her back ... Naley just being more like the old Naley (they are the best couple in any series) have em do something really crazy ... Brooke getting closer to owen ..and dan oh dan personally i detest him no sympathy what so ever wished he wouldve killed nanny carrie so he had to go back to jail lucas better not forgive him pretty sure nathan def will.. Mouth ahh who really cares what he does unless he brings back Rachel she would definitely spice things up... they all need to stop acting so grown up be more playful.They definitely need to remind us why it is we watch one tree hill. although it is a lot to live up to after season 4 but im sure they canim hoppin this was just the set up episode to some drama!

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Apr 16, 2008 10:09AM EDT

I didn't think it was all that boring... in fact, I thought it was a great bridge from what had happened 4 weeks prior. I mean, we had to have a way to get caught up, and these characters had to have outlets to work through the issues that they're dealing with. It was nice to see them just talking about why they do the things they do, and really understanding them, yk?

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Apr 16, 2008 1:04PM EDT

everyone has been saying this episode was boring... personally i LOVED it.i loved the fact that most of the scenes started with the last phrase of the previous scene, the ending quote "think of a wish, do you have it? now, store it in your heart, do you believe in it? etc etc" which was repeated by each character to describe their own wish. i love the foreshadowing of brooke and lucas both being lonely... getting together much? and max and peyton? it was also great that mark schwan acted as max! and of course the naley reconciliation and the cute jamie moments... look deeper guys :D think what you want; just stating my opinion :)

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Apr 16, 2008 1:06PM EDT

also "RacheLl" sorry but it seems like you really hate the show... you're like insulting every character... and the plot of the whole series; why watch then!?

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Apr 16, 2008 4:37PM EDT

the counselor gave us a hint, act more like your age, hope it will come a little more OTH crazyness back ^.^

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Apr 17, 2008 4:17PM EDT

I totally agree about being the most boring episode so far, Wasn't expecting that at all, seen as most of the episodes been on have been great! Lets hope the rest of the season isnt as bad. I think the part with brooke talking to the adoption counselor dragged on too.

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