Andos Power

Ando can multiply other peoples powers by a 1,000% or so. So since peters back to being an em path and he can absorb peoples powers who are in a 20 foot radius of himself. Does this mean if Ando super charged Peter he would be able to absorb powers from almost 4 miles away? Same goes for the Haitians power. I mean seriously its a really good power when you put it into context with Andos persona as the typical sidekick, and now he really is "hero support".

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Dec 16, 2008 12:09PM EST

We cant assume that Peter has his original power back. His ability to fly can just be a coincidence, meaning the formula gave him the power to fly and only that. This does not mean Peter can now absorb other people's abilities like before.

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Dec 16, 2008 12:27PM EST

You have to remember that the formula was made from the anatomy of those originally with power. The formula would just increase the element that gave people powers and give to those that don't have them .

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Dec 16, 2008 1:12PM EST

When pete injected himself if he got his original power back, then he would have got the flame ability (can't remember the guys name). although Ando's ability is mega, in the earlier episode it showed him firing upon Hiro so maybe it only multiplies aswell by coincidence.
relating to time travel, Hiro Brought back the formular and ripped it up so therefore in the present half the people wouldn't have powers and the whole event with the new formula wouldn't have taken place... you get me??

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Dec 16, 2008 1:15PM EST

sylar is not dead!!! they only left the glass in him so if someone comes and takes it out then he will heal. just hopefully he burnt to ashes in the building!

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Dec 16, 2008 1:21PM EST

Umm @Woodsy.
See if you remeber earlier Suresh said that the powers they had were something to do with the adreneline gland and were unique to that person. Since Peter injected himself I am fairly sure he got his original power back.
Also. If he got his original power back, it means he has the ability to absorb powers. Doesn't mean he has retained all those powers which he had before, since Nathan was there he got his and flew. Righty.

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Dec 16, 2008 1:38PM EST

I think we can assume he has his original power back. Suresh connected the development of powers to an individuals adrenalin, and each persons power matches their personality. Obviously part of this is a literary device, but has also evolved to a faux-science of the heroes world. i think what we can't assume is that he has a different power.

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Dec 16, 2008 2:43PM EST

Also, Woodsy, Hiro didn't bring back the formula from the past. Daphne took him to Tracy in the present day where she was getting the formula out of the safe to be used again later and took it from her. So, what is done (all of the others with powers) is done, but any further use of the formula is nixed. So, only Suresh, who bathed in the stuff, Peter and Ando who injected themselves and the marine (who was killed) benefited from the formula.

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Dec 16, 2008 2:54PM EST

@ WishIWasHouse: I think you might be confused with Peter's power in relation to his use of other powers. Being his special Heroes brand of Empath, he accesses others' powers by remembering how they felt when they used their powers(referencing his training with the invisible man season 1). There is no physical change in him, so once he got his original power back he should have access to all the powers he once did.

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Dec 16, 2008 4:20PM EST

So then why didn't Hiro and Ando dual? seriously, that was the future, it was supposed to happen. Bad story telling ABC

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Dec 16, 2008 4:25PM EST

Dual, means two parts at once, the dual tendencies for good and evil each person has. Something can have dual purposes, meaning that you can use it for two things. The voice over at the end went on about that, that there are not exactly villains or heros, but people can be either. Duel, with an e, meaning a fight between two people, is different.

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Dec 16, 2008 4:55PM EST

@ cytem: They didn't duel because the future is changed (again). no formula - no abilities for everybody. maybe it would help you to watch this season again, there are a lot of details you probably missed. but actually that's due to the rich writing, sometimes it seems like the writers themselves lost some of their storylines. only thing that bothers me is that hiro has no powers now! so actually he'll be the sidekick next season, but that might add some hilarious minutes to it.

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Dec 16, 2008 7:31PM EST

Ok. Peter obviously got his original power (empathy mimcry), which Sylar turns out to have all this time....as well as intuitive aptitude. Anyways, Peter might have all his powers back or just absorbed Nathan and Flint's powers and thats it. Either way, he is back. Mohinder will probably have his same abilities (just with no side-effects).
Hiro ripped the formula, he didn't destroy it u morons. They could have recoppied the formula on another piece of paper and thus it would be still safe....christ sake, think a little. They then destroyed the formula in present time.
Also, if you are wondering how Sylar kept his original powers and telekinesis after the shanti virus.This is my theory: Sylar's original power was the same as Peter (empathy), and he absorbed intuitive aptitude from his father, and then the rest he used intuitive aptitude. So, when he was injected with the shanti virus, he lost his powers, but regained empathy, intuitive, and telekinesis because of the guilt over brain davis's death. He only lost powers that he used intuitive aptitude because he didn't really abosrb it like empathy, but he absorbed telekinesis from intuitive, but because of the guilt, he absorbed it also with empathy.

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Dec 16, 2008 7:33PM EST

Actually, I dont think he has lost any of his powers because in the future, he demonstrated radioactivity and precog painting. I think the writers lied on purpose.

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Dec 16, 2008 7:34PM EST

Unless he absorbed those from Peter...

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Dec 16, 2008 7:51PM EST

popularscience, what is with the name calling? It is not necessary. You can disagree and state you case without being rude.

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Dec 16, 2008 8:30PM EST

How exactly did Hiro, Ando and Daphne get back from the past anyway? This may be a little pedantic on my part given the nature of the show. However, my understanding is that if you travel faster than the speed of light, you see things before they happen so can essentially travel back in time. There is no way to travel forward in time using this, so they should all have to remain 16 years in the past. I guess they could travel further back in time for shits and giggles if they so wished.

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Dec 16, 2008 8:59PM EST

peter is stupid. enough said. i never liked the guy. he's really whiny. but seriously, he's all like let's destroy the formula- no one can use the formula, it is evil, etc.. and then he uses it to save his own ass. what an ass. wasn't that nathan's intention? to use the formula for good (although i'm sure this can lead to bad implications...) you can't reject the guy's theories and then use them only when they benefit you. the asshole.

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Dec 16, 2008 10:27PM EST

The formula is gone. This entire story line only exists because of the strike. There was supposed to be a massive viral outbreak, not a formula that gives people powers. Because of this, when they end the chapter, the end this little side excursion all together. They used it to alter a few things - ie ando and hiro, but overall they are simply returning to where they intended to go before the strike. That means no formula. Period.

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Dec 16, 2008 10:41PM EST

Woah Peter could absorb Ando's powers and then supercharge all of his own mixing his Powers together to become... God...ly. And Peter could only get his powers back because the ice chick got her powers back the same way. Hiro is useless without the formula. I'm sure they will give Peter a clean slate as far as powers go Sylar got all his powers back after the Shanti virus because it wasn't that he forgot how to use them or what they did he just couldn't understand how to use them, once he got his powers back he was straight. Peter had to get his powers back otherwise he was as good as dead and they definitely don't plan on killing him off.

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Dec 16, 2008 11:16PM EST

okay hiro ripped the formula in half in the past bt on the first episode of the season when he opened the safe it was still ripped in half and taped back together....seriously people need to remember wat happens in heroes or better yet watch it again instead of pointing out plot holes that are not there.

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Dec 17, 2008 4:42AM EST

Did no-one notice that when Nox walked into the room and where nathan was lying. Arthurs body wasnt there?? just a trail of blood.

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Dec 17, 2008 5:56AM EST

You wouldn't just leave a dead body lying in the middle of your living room... would you?
Let's not try to look for things that aren't there. Arthur is permanently dead. That's that.

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Dec 17, 2008 6:28AM EST

Naiobi, I agree with you a 100% that there is no need in this forum to name-call or bad-mouth other people's comments. Heroes is such a wonderful show in that we all need to use our heads & think. I suggest to everybody to re-watch every episode from the very beginning--each scene & dialog will answer most of our theories. We have until Feb.2009 , when v.4 Fugitives returns with 12 new episodes :-)

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Dec 17, 2008 8:45AM EST

We don't know for a fact that all of the formula is gone but I think we can safely assume that it is seeing that it was the main plot line for this season. I do think that there is at least one dose of the formula out there, that Tracy or Nathan could of taken out, and I think its gonna be used to give Hiro his powers back. I think he will stay a sidekick for a little while though. Also I think we can assume that peter has at least his empathy ability back but does that allow him to call back on powers that he used to have, like invisibility, time travel and so forth. I doubt there gonna bring peter back and just give him the ability to fly. Well these are just my theories, I could type all day, but I guess we will just have to wait till season four comes out or take alisa's advice and re-watch seasons 1-3. ;)

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Dec 17, 2008 10:27AM EST

I'm sure peter (theoretically ) should be able to use all the powers he has knowledge of, as he calls them up by remembering how each individual felt when accessing their abilities. But then its an entertainment show, so they can do what the hell they like and just say 'because'.Now Mohinder and Peter have used the complete formula they should have some evidence of the catalyst in their systems; so im sure Mohinder, being the clever guy he is, could probably make more.There is also a possibility of finding an individual with the power to give powers to others...and dont forget there are some natural sources of gaining powers, like when Matt went on his vision quest and saw the future after eating the African's mystical goo.

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Dec 17, 2008 10:54AM EST

Thanks, alisa. I also have another question. Do we assume that the catalyst died with Arthur? I didn't see it pass to anyone, but as we know with Hiro's mother, it can pass from one person to the another. Or, does it have to be given to another person? I didn't see it leave Arthur's body, either. I would have expected to see the light pulse and fade if it died with Arthur. Any ideas?

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Dec 17, 2008 12:14PM EST

if u have watch the episode again where arthur dies ... you DO see light fade out of his body. but what i can't understand is why Ando and blondy didnt get 2 formula shots because they knew that hiro was powerless too and wouldnt they want him to have his powers back?

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Dec 17, 2008 1:01PM EST

good point dutchboyy...but then again they are the idiots of the show, so doing idiot things should be right on par for them

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Dec 17, 2008 1:55PM EST

ok.. now who moved arthurs body then?? and if they moved him why didnt they try and wake nathan up??
Also! If you watch Our Father again you see the bullet soar into his head and right back out again.
There is no need to be short with me this is just my opinion!

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Dec 17, 2008 8:33PM EST

i doubt that arthur is really dead, As Nagini pointed out his body is gone from the room. My opintion is that he just got up and walked away, after all, he did absorb Adam's regeneration power and we know that even if a hero loses that power there is a certain amount of time that can pass where they are dead and powerless and still regain the power and regenerate. This is just my idea though i could have missed something.

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Dec 17, 2008 8:50PM EST

haven't really time to read through all this, sorry if i'm repeating what someone has already said -
but surely the formula is useless anyway cos the catalyst wasn't absorbed by anyone, even if Arthur is not dead, it definitely left him... yeah?

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Dec 17, 2008 9:18PM EST

yeah, dead or not i agree w/ colm, the catalyst defiantly left Arthur after the bullet wound. Where it went, or if it just evaporated into nothing is beyond me.
Just had a thought. If Peter gets Ando's power and then Ando powers up Peter who intern powers up Ando what would happen? Would they get infinitely powered up as Peter gets the powers of everyone on the planet? Also if Ando powered up Sylar would Sylar become Omniscient and know everything or at least know how everything works?

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Dec 17, 2008 10:00PM EST

Yeah Recall I think in theory if peter absorbed andos ability he would be able to power himself up and at least gain abilitys from up to 4 miles away and if Ando amped up that power then we could assume that Peter could absorb powers from 4'000 miles away. The only problem is peters an em path so he needs to attach a feeling along with th power to control it and use it, so even though he could have endless powers he wouldn't be able to us them. I think if Sylar absorbed Andos power he would b unstoppable for sure.

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Dec 17, 2008 11:29PM EST

I think if Peter got Andos ability he would either faint or go nuclear, it only took a few powers too make him pass out a first. As for the "formula" With all the computers at Pinehearst, the internet probs intranet aswell, maybe a few "photcopiers." note books etc yup ripping up that 1 bit of paper means its gone. Also (memory's not clear on this 1) didnt sylar get the ability to make people see whatever he wanted? If thats the cases He and arthur could have walked away hand in hand while whe all thought both were recently killed, or claire couldv killed noah (c-ing sylar obviously) and sylar left with claire. Dosnt anyone think its great the endless possibilties the writers have with this show?

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Dec 18, 2008 1:11AM EST

Bigwattysmith: Nah, Sylar didn't have the illusion power. Recall, he *tried* to get the power from the illusion girl in the middle of nowhere when his powers were inhibited by the virus. But he failed.

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Dec 19, 2008 10:07PM EST

Could it be possible that even though hero doesnt have his power, maybe he is able to use his power when ando touches him. Like some sort of reminance of his power are left and ando being able to magnify powers might boost it up. It wouldnt suprise me if they had some lame story line of how ando needs hero and hero needs ando

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Jan 22, 2009 8:19PM EST

Couldn't Ando and speedy (sorry forgot her name) go back in time again and get some of the formula before it was destroyed and get Hiro's powers back?

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