Reply Jack quitting

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"...john barrowman is already casting doubt on whether he'll return for a third run. he tolf Inside TV: "i haven't made any decisions. if we do get the go ahead for another season, i'll have to sit down and think about it, as this most recent series was a nightmare at times""


i think it would be rubbish if he pulled out of Torchwood. obviously this is not confirmed but if he did there wouldn't be a show. what else would he do if not torchwood?


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I really hope he doesn't quit :S This guy/gal at DigitalSpy is right, if he quits he probably takes Torchwood don with him.


But I think this creates another question, if he quits Torchwood, will he also quit showing up on Doctor Who? O_o

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Apr 19, 2008 7:59AM EDT

Good riddance.I liked the show at first - I thought it was a cool setup, with potential for some crazy storylines - but then when I discovered that Jack was bi-sexual, I was annoyed.When I saw guy on guy kissing start, I swore off the show.
Injecting this show with that kind of behavior is just another way the dysfunctional homosexual community is injecting their lifestyle into mainstream culture, to try and make it seem like the societal norm. It is not normal or how nature intended.
But they want to make it a societal norm so that they can feel better about themselves. Experimentation is one thing, but exclusive relations with the same sex is just wrong. What's next? Bestiality?

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Apr 20, 2008 2:10AM EDT

Exactly what is dysfunctional about homosexuality? "Their lifestyle" as you put it has been a part of mainstream culture since there has been culture, and no doubt before. As for it being contrary to how nature intended: first of all, "nature" doesn't "intend" anything, anthropomorphizing the universe and giving it with your world view is about as arrogant as you can get.Not to mention the fact that homosexual behaviour is found in nearly every animal you can name from fruit flies to apes, dolphins, penguins and I could go on. Unless a gay man is actually trying to rape you, you have nothing to complain about. Why should you care what men who happen to find men attractive do when it has absolutely nothing to do with you?(And if you are running to family values, look at the research before you tell me gay people are bad parents or are more likely to raise gay kids)

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Apr 20, 2008 2:25AM EDT

Good riddance? Potential lost by the fact he was bi-sexual? Thanks for pushing me so hard to sign up for a sidereel account. I didn't realize I would find such a ridiculous youtube-esque comment here.
So Jack liking men and women got in the way of his alien capturing, saving, destroying.. Oh crap the world is going to end! HOLD ON I have to kiss Gwen AND Ianto! Besides this he's OMNISEXUAL, if you paid attention long enough without shutting down your brain in disgust. In the plot he's from way into the future, where bigotted and stupid people like you don't exist. It's a place where sex and race don't matter anymore.
Injecting? Seriously? Yeah let's link this to some sort of disease. Oh so the homosexual community is dysfunctional is it? Are you the expert? Did you visit every homosexual community with your close-minded views? I don't think so. Do give us the reasons why it is dysfunctional. The fact is, this should be a societal norm already, it's people who cling to the past like you that are incapable of letting go. There have always been gay and lesbian people in society, and it's about damn time they got their respect.
Do I even need to go into why you can't possibly know what nature intended? If you're clinging to the Bible and yelling blasphemy at your monitor it doesn't change the fact that the Bible isn't meant to be a factual and literal document.
Yeah y'know, we want to feel better about ourselves. There are people treating us like crap and we have NO way to change the way we are. We accept who we are, and we push to have others accept this. We don't want every single person to be gay or lesbian or w/e.
Here's the laughable ending of your sorry delusions. "Experimentation is one thing, but exclusive relations with the same sex is just." So first you condemn bi-sexuals, and now it's fine as long as they sleep around? <3
I'm surprised you even spelled bestiality correctly, but you're just citing some slippery slope crap. I think that giving a computer and internet to someone like you is a pretty dangerous thing, what next? A dog with a laptop!? That's how ridiculous you're being.
WiseOne, your name is as full of crap as you are, have a nice day you just made mine :)

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Apr 20, 2008 8:02AM EDT

"Do I even need to go into why you can't possibly know what nature intended?"No, because you can't possibly know either. However, science dictates that sex, which is the means for reproduction, can only lead to reproduction if its between a man and woman (except in those species of animals that reproduce asexually and whatnot). That's enough for me to conclude that it is biologically unnatural for anything else to occur. When I said I thought "exclusive relations with the same sex is just wrong" I meant it is not biologically productive and therefore unnatural.
And I prefer the term "opinions" over "delusions".
Also, when I say dysfunctional, I mean medically speaking. Most deny that it is a choice, and that they are born that way. Okay, fine. Maybe their genes carry anomalies that lead to them becoming attracted to the same sex, instead of what the majority of the planet would refer to as the biological norm (sexual attraction to the opposite sex).
And defense, honestly, animals do not have the intelligence to be homosexual - I would classify those behaviors as simple experimentation.
And now, as I leave this topic in pursuit of more productive activities, I leave you with this in response to: "you're just citing some slippery slope crap."
The direction we are headed as a society, this isn't a slippery slope. It's an inevitability.

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Apr 20, 2008 8:05AM EDT

Oh, and one more thing:
"it doesn't change the fact that the Bible isn't meant to be a factual and literal document."Obviously, YOU haven't done any research, otherwise you would know that a large majority of the Bible is proven fact (mostly the old testament).

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Apr 20, 2008 12:32PM EDT

A man and a woman makes a child. Wow! What a discovery for you. Without a child can they still love one another? Yes. Can they still have sex? Yes. I didn't know that as people we had a quota to fill and babies to make. Let's just add to the overpopulation of the planet!
I want you to sit there and think for a minute. If you were just sitting in high school one day and you realized that you weren't attracted to women, and that you were attracted to men, how would you deal with it? It wasn't a matter of "Oh I feel like being a gay guy, that looks like such awful fun! Being bullied and beat up." Would you attend some sort of church camp that converts you to be heterosexual? You would then live out your entire life unhappy because you can't be with someone you can really love.
The only choice I ever made was that I wouldn't live in fear of who I really was, it's MY life and no-one out there is going to dictate to me how to live it and make it less of one. This is why I replied to this disheartening topic.

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Apr 24, 2008 12:53AM EDT

I find it interesting that you only swore off the show after you saw a male/male kiss. What about the F/f kiss that occured first, in "Greeks Bearing Gifts"? Are you saying that it's ok for two females to kiss, but two males can't?
In your first comment, you say "Experimentation is one thing, but exclusive relations with the same sex is just wrong." This implies that you think that sex between two men or two women is fine, as long as the two people in question aren't in a committed relationship. Isn't that a little hypocritical? Isn't it better for two people to be in a monogamous, loving relationship than just having casual sex?

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Apr 24, 2008 4:25PM EDT

WiseOne, I'd like to point out a few flaws in your argument, although I know many of them have already been pointed out before.
A suggestion: don't use the Bible to justify hatred. I'm far from religious, but I always thought religion promoted this idea called 'love'. Strange concept, I know. Like I said, I'm not religious, so correct me if I'm wrong but...isn't it a bit hypocritical of a religion to say: "Love thy neighbor. Oh, wait...your neighbor's gay? It's okay to hate them then."
Out of curiosity, have you looked up Roman history? Considered a rather civilized society for their time. Homosexuality...it was okay. I love how society changed and decided that it was suddenly 'wrong'.
Oh, and who can forget: "Experimentation is one thing, but exclusive relations with the same sex is just wrong."
Congratulations on backing yourself into a corner with that one.

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Apr 25, 2008 5:43AM EDT

It's not hatred, its opinion.And I don't hate homosexuals - quite the contrary.I just very much disagree with their lifestyle, whether they chose to be that way or not.And touching again on that "homosexuality in animals" comment, yes, there are animals that practice homosexuality but there are also animals that eat their young. Does that make it okay for us to eat our children too?Just a thought...
And Lokiface, I don't consider "sexual" activities between the same sex ACTUAL sex.Even the dictionary describes sex as "the act of sexual procreation between a man and a woman". If you deny that sex at its core is designed to allow for procreation between a man and a woman then you are fighting science. If you do not deny it, then you know that what you have between you and your "partner" is not sex but a means to an orgasm, just like masturbation.
And drowningonair, I find it humorous that you avoid responding to my comment about the Old Testament being mostly proven fact, and instead pull the focus to this supposed "hatred" I am justifying with the Bible. Somebody doesn't want to deal with the possibility that I have a valid argument.
The Bible does indeed promote "this idea called love", and by saying I don't agree with the homosexual lifestyle I am not saying I don't "love thy neighbor" if he/she is gay. I again am simply saying I do not agree with the lifestyle and think it is unnatural, and yes, sinful. There is a HUGE difference between disapproving of somebody and hating them.
Also, concerning the Roman history thing, the Romans were also okay with throwing people into an arena so they could fight for their lives by slicing each other apart (gladiators). Maybe we should bring back that sport...
And I will quote from my early post: "When I said I thought 'exclusive relations with the same sex is just wrong' I meant it is not biologically productive and therefore unnatural."
If I backed myself into a corner, its because there were too many hot-headed homosexuals in the middle of the room, and I needed to take a deep breath and truly bid you all goodbye. An interesting debate we've had here...

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Apr 27, 2008 12:33PM EDT

I'm sorry, normally I stay away from debates like this, but I can't help myself today, WiseOne: I find you comments extremely offensive. Some of my best friends are gay and bisexual. And saying that their lifestyle is 'sinful' is wrong.I really can't wrap my head around why loving someone so much is wrong, no matter what gender they may be. And having a partner of the same sex does not mean they can never have a child of there own, artificial insemination? (sp?) Sergot (sp?) mothers? I mean it's not like earth needs a giant population at this point anyway, but that doesn't change the fact that there are still ways for these people to have children of their own.
WiseOne: You said there was a huge difference between hating somebody and disapproving of somebody, that may be true but in my opinion, disapproving of somebody is worse because when you hate somebody, it's because you have nothing in common, and they do things you don't like, when you disapprove of somebody you could have a lot in common with this person, you could even be friends with them, until you find out one thing about them that you don't agree with, and then you abandon them.I think that's more hurtful than hate, giving up on somebody, because of WHO they LOVE, is just wrong.

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Apr 27, 2008 5:54PM EDT

Note to everyone, No matter how much you try to explain your opinions to each other not one of you are going to change your minds about the way you feel. So rather then getting upset and arguing back and forth about this never ending subject you might as well let it pass over. Plus the topic of this forum was about Jack leaving not about him being ominsexual. Jack will have sex with anyone and anything. If it looked good in his eyes regardless of the species he would do it. Plus in one of the episode the other time agent I think made a comment about having sex with an animal. Don't qoute me on that I would have to find it. Yeah I know it is kinda gross but whatever. If you want to have sex with a goat, a guy, a girl, a rock, or another species it shouldn't matter as long as who ever is doing it is happy with their lives. I think Jack and Ianto are a cute couple anyways :)

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Apr 29, 2008 12:09AM EDT

This is and will be a series others will be judged by...cultural abnormalities...sexual deviations shouldn't run the themes into the ground, attempting to make a social statement, do a news program or documentary- not Science Fiction...Think if the Jetson's came out of the closet...a gay robot maid...hmmm...

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May 3, 2008 4:05AM EDT

I have to agree with krazyfrog6. This isn't the place and most likely you won't agree. I will however say that I'm a Christian and some of my closest friends are gay. They were astounded however when I said that the John/Jack and Jack/PreviousJack were two of the most amazing kisses I've every seen. People expect me to hate gays simply because I ready the bible. One of the great things about this show is that it does hit a lot of issues that people don't like to talk about, and anything that will make people talk and think and question is worth watching... if it turns out to be less than great, fine, but isn't the possibility that someone will watch the show, and asked the questions, and think worth it? Maybe someone reading this thread will see how much support there is out there, or that religion isn't just hate, or that all the questions they're asking aren't so strange. But hell, I'm an optimist. Most likely this thread won't have near as much impact, but maybe the show will... it got us talking didn't it?

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May 3, 2008 4:06AM EDT

Though I have never known a gay person, I have to say wiseOne that you are so (excuse my language) fucking stupid at times. MOST of the Old Testament is right you say, but only most. And about Nature not intending to have gay couples? Well, the truth is that a study was taken and (I don't mean to offend gay people with this) if you're gay, its because of your BRAIN and hormones. So apparently Nature did intend for some people to be straight and others to be gay. And humans aren't the only species to have sex for fun. Dolphins do it too and also llamas (or was it alpacas?) are often gay. So you should be more open minded and the whole "I don't hate homosexuals-quite the contrary" is utter shit coming from your mouth. So unless you are coming here to say good stuff, then stop coming to the site of Torchwood; the series you "swore" off anyway.

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May 7, 2008 11:02PM EDT

I am a Christian, and an admitted Creationist, who fully believes that God made men and women with the purpose of their being married and creating more children. But I also believe that it isn't my place to judge anyone merely for acting in a way that goes against my beliefs. After all I watch a show that a lot of people would view me as being morally debunct for watching.
Also if any of you had actually looked into things instead of just acting in a visceral manner you might have found out that John Barrowman is Gay, has been in a Civil Union for years, and doesn't believe in homosexuals marrying because he believes that marriage is a function of a religion that hates homosexuals. This information would at least have been a more logical reason to start a fight about homosexuality than the actions of a fictional character.
Not to mention that Russell T. Davies is known for writing stories that feature homosexuals, so if that bothers you might want to avoid shows he has created, and not just revamped.
I hope this comment does not step on anyones toes, but I found it highly insulting to the Cast and Crew of Torchwood for someone would dismiss the work they put into the show merely because the show itself doesn't agree with them. It is your right to decide not to watch a show because it goes against your beliefs, but other people have the right to make that decission for themselves. If you wanted to make your viewpoint known you could have written a review on the main Torchwood page that warned people about the homosexual content or something equally informative and mabey convinced somebody not to watch the show, but by posting it in a place where only people who watch Torchwood would go, all you've managed to do is convince people that your veiwpoint shouldn't be taken seriously.

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May 8, 2008 4:40PM EDT

just to say smth about the topic:>"...john barrowman is already casting doubt on whether he'll return for a >third run. he tolf Inside TV: "i haven't made any decisions. if we do get >the go ahead for another season, i'll have to sit down and think about >it, as this most recent series was a nightmare at times""
i doubt he'll quit. i just watched John on Ready Steady Cook, and he was talking about filming another series of Torchwood.

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May 10, 2008 2:25PM EDT

Listen to you guys. You're arguing about gay being wrong or right. Why do you guys care so much? If you were smart then you guys wouldn't care what other people think of you, whether or not you are gay. Anyways I was just trying to shed some light on what you guys are arguing about.

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May 29, 2008 2:49AM EDT

This is bizarre, you hate the show for the blatant bisexuality? Not the fact it has a huge amount of holes in almost every plot, horrible writing, sometimes it doesn't flow right, bad acting at times and sometimes campier effects then the original '63 Dr. Who? Oh no, it is the 3 male on male kisses in the entire show.....
I am surprised this is offending people, I assumed the first thing people would argue about is the whole aliens and demonic figures exist but god and heaven doesn't. I figure you people would rather argue over those sort of things. Then again you must be bored out of your skull to watch torchwood incessantly and argue about gay butt sex. If you were to ask me, I for some reason like the show regardless of its downfalls because it doesn't feel the need to fill the Christian right coalitions quota of believe it the way we see it hubbub and its non repressive blatant sexuality. If you dislike like it watch something else and go and post back on your favorite show forum, according to jim

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May 30, 2008 4:56PM EDT

"Injecting this show with that kind of behavior is just another way the dysfunctional homosexual community is injecting their lifestyle into mainstream culture, to try and make it seem like the societal norm. It is not normal or how nature intended.But they want to make it a societal norm so that they can feel better about themselves. Experimentation is one thing, but exclusive relations with the same sex is just wrong. What's next? Bestiality?"
You say this as if you fear being sucked into homosexual lifestyle? I am sure the guy that marries you will make you very happy bottom. You don't have to lash out, it just makes you look like an old bitter queen.

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May 31, 2008 12:29AM EDT

Land snails are not female or male. Land snails are born with both sexual organs and long with a number of other animals. Thus a non-asexual homosexual relationships that happens just has god made them.All clownfish are born male then become female as needed.
The romans where ok with throwing slaves, prisoners of war, and criminals into arenas.
Only one line in the old testament truly says homosexual is wrong. This is in Leviticus which is a book of Jewish laws. Although, most people continue to eat pork, shellfish, and cheese on there hamburgers. Leviticus is seen as outdated or out of practice by most Christians. (Unless, you are one of the lucky few.)
Other line commonly see to refer to homosexual actually refer to male prostitution. These lines have been mistranslated into homosexuality out of a lack of understand...as to say any man who sleeps with another man must be a prostitute and all male prostitutes are homosexual.
The bible is very clean about sodomy, which refers to anything not vaginal...including masturbation. Other thing which is unnatural? It is "not biologically productive" (but a lot of fun).
If the events in the old testament is fact has nothing to do with anything. A better question to ask is which old testament? You must understand the Torah was written without punctuation, words run into each other and each reading of the Torah could say something new or different. Translations will very and thing can be lost to human error.
It is a misconception that homosexuals do not want to have kids of there own one day (even by natural means). I think wanting to reproduce is human. It does not matter if you gay, straight, or bi. It is just a part of us.
To my knowledge animals that eat their young tend to do it for survival or the better the chances of the uneaten young. This could be "biologically productive." Human do/have done similar things. The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is said by some completely disown some of their teenage males to ensure their lifestyle. China had a one child policy, enforce by the death of the proceeding.
factual does not equal literal. The word is paradigm.
Bestiality was the main plot of Equus. It has already happened.
john barrowman is gay.
There are many other bisexual characters on tv

Thirteen (House) and The Todd should have a love child.
THAT SAID:
Lokiface likely quote "and decrease the surplus population."
ashqueen: there was a gay kiss in the first episode, Owen Harper and some girl's boyfriend.
drowningonair: the roman/greeks also enjoy their pederasty. Are you saying become pedophiles where around back then at pedophilia is ok today?
krazyfrog6: I think it is more sheep than goat.
savakinamu: dumbledore is gay.

megduff17: Jesus turns me on too.
June_4: most studies on homosexuals are under funded and under reliable.
Chibifukurou: I like you.
neyneSend: thank you for the news!!!!
LillithxD-Knock: not gay, Mexicube.
Misstress: to mis-qoute June_4 "I have to say Misstress that you are so (excuse my language) fucking stupid." According to Jim rocks!!! You did really add anything yo this discussion.
Even one here need to "watch almost normal"

And wiseone, you can experiment with me anytime.

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May 31, 2008 8:35PM EDT

I'm with whoever pointed out that there are so many reasons not to watch Torchwood besides the gay thing. Some really shallow characters and conflicts and lots of plot holes. E.g., when they go back in time in the Captain Jack Harkness episode why don't they just look for Torchwood? We know they exist back then from previous episodes and Dr. Who (which IMHO is lots better). In fact the gay stuff is one of the things that keeps me coming back. I'm straight but its nice to see a show that deals with gay men without making them flaming morons. Its also nice to see men kissing once in a while. It seems lesbian kisses are fine but except for broke back Mountain these are the first full male on male kisses I've seen on TV or movies. Good for them. Its also really nice to see James Marsters again (any other people who miss Buffy?). Don't let WiseOne (hah!) get to you. His arguments are so lame I won't even bother responding. I suspect he is really turned on by the kisses and finds that disturbing!

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Jun 1, 2008 10:15PM EDT

I have only one point to make, from a human sexuality perspective out of the whole human race only 10% are heterosexual while only 10% are homosexual, all the rest are spread across the spectrum to varying degrease. Which would make, at least scientifically, the majority of the human race bi to some degree or another. If you have any issues with my point, take it up with my human sexuality proff.

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Aug 17, 2008 11:30PM EDT

[b]Misstress: to mis-qoute June_4 "I have to say Misstress that you are so (excuse my language) fucking stupid." According to Jim rocks!!! You did really add anything yo this discussion.[/b]
Yes it is appearent from how you spell and communicate you are a fan of According to Jim. I think it is best to leave the thinking and decision making to the adults, obviously mindless entertainment seems to be a better look on you then actual worldly discussions. Stick with what ya know kid!

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