Vampires: Innately Evil?

Especially after watching the last episode, it seems to me that vampires largely fit their evil stereotype. I'm not talking about the books 'cause I haven't read them, but the writers for True Blood have certainly portrayed them that way.

Most of the vampires we have seen to date are predatory, ruthless, and consider human beings to be a lower type of lifeform. The ones shown briefly on TV even seem to have their own agenda, and their radical human counter-parts have a habit of dying in nasty accidents. Even recognized vampire "law" takes sadistic pleasure in torturing "offenders" and preying on innocent humans.

The possible exceptions to this rule are Bill and the gay vampire. Gay vampire was new to the ways and habits of vampires, so he cannot be a positive example. "good" Bill obviously has his own sordid past (to judge by his associates) but through force of circumstance is not above turning a human or murdering out of revenge (Sookie's uncle).

Bill and those *trying* to be truly mainstream are obviously a minority, and a weak one at that. Makes you wonder what conspiracy is embedded in the plan to go public.

So do you think they are innately evil, or just turn that way after centuries of living with callous humans who fear and persecuted them?



Default avatar cat
Nov 10, 2008 3:14PM EST

The point you make is good and I just think it comes down to how the person adapts to being an vampire. In spite of the fact that is expected to be certain why there are some cases like the "gay" vampire as you pointed out that he just wanted to fit into a certain group and did not intend to hurt anyone. I think the temptation to be evil is more there because it is expected in that world, just like if a child is brought up in a certain enviroment there is more of a chance that he or she is going to think certain things are "normal" but there are choices there...

Default avatar cat
Nov 10, 2008 6:14PM EST

If you lived forever and were nearly indestructible, faster and stronger than humans, wouldn't you kinda think they're toys for your amusement? Add that with the fact that Vampires historically would have had to drink blood/kill people, that creates a whole nother morality in which being nice doesn't really work. Plus, they would constantly be faced with fear or hate from their "prey" and if you look at any modern day war-torn country, you see the stronger (I know, I know, but I don't want to get into the social and political issue of that statement) minority slowly become less and less fluffy, so to speak.

Default avatar cat
Nov 10, 2008 6:57PM EST

Uncommitted great point. Didn't the 'gay' vampire tell Jason that 'we are what we were when we were turned'. They perhaps are like humans and what happens to a human when you give it unstoppable powers? ... ... ... corruption. People become bad and bad people become evil. Might explain for the varying degrees of all out nastiness. You do what you have to and if you have to kill you have to kill. But if in killing you find you enjoy it then evilness might ensue?

Default avatar cat
Nov 10, 2008 7:59PM EST

One thing that did confuse me - the vampires in the programme come across as the stereotypical cold hearted beasts with no feelings, especially those at Fangtasia. Therefore if they have no feelings because they are technically dead how can Bill truely love Sookie?

Default avatar cat
Nov 10, 2008 8:12PM EST

Razzamatazz_Fairy: Weell, I have a response to that, but it would be a spoiler based on the books, so I'll bite my tongue.
Another reason would just be that you might compare Vampires to Beef farmers. If the vampire's old, humans are food, and you learn not to get too attached to fluffy four-hooved Fanny-Sue, because you know a) you might eat her and b) she will die way earlier that you.
I think it ultimately comes down to the fact that vampires live a long time. These are both defensive mechanisms against the fact that once you live 200 years you've seen the worst of human nature, and you've probably participated in some of it. Plus, everything you've loved has died (or changed, or you changed, or all of the above).
The vamps who break down and can't handle it, are a) staked, b) burned, c) starve, or d) are killed off by their vampire mates for amusement. (Sure, there are exceptions, but I bet they keep a low profile).
At least that's my take on it.
Good points, Captain-Pineapples, by the way. :)

Default avatar cat
Nov 10, 2008 10:56PM EST

I agree with uncommitted. They actually used the cattle analogy in the scene with the red haired girl. I think what they're trying to say is that they treat humans in the same way that we treat cattle. They are food. They are below us. They are meant to be eaten.
The inquisitor even said "they don't feel pain the same way we do." That's the same excuse that we give ourselves for the way we treat the animals that we slaughter for food.
The writers have been doing that on two levels in the last couple of episodes. They also did it when Jason's new girlfriend (whose name escapes me at the moment) said something similar about the "gay vampire", she said "He's not human, Jason." or something like that as an excuse for the way that they were treating him. The predator becomes the prey and vice versa.
I love this show.

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