Sammy ...

Is it just me or did Sam in the premier, seem not too broken up by Dean's death, I mean he didn't apppear to care as much as he did in the episode of Mystery Spot. What do you guys think?


Default avatar cat
Sep 25, 2008 5:24PM EDT

yeah i think soo too i am annoyed with sam i have a feeling that the reason that dean was brought back is because he is the only one that will be able to stop sam

Default avatar cat
Sep 25, 2008 5:29PM EDT

possibly ... who knows what the season will bring ... if they do have to fight in the end my money's on Dean ... he'll kick Sammy's scrawny ass! lol!

Default avatar cat
Sep 25, 2008 6:40PM EDT

Scrawny?? lol what are you talking about? Sam is bigger than Dean now lol and rbuchanan I fully agree with you :) 100%!!

Default avatar cat
Sep 25, 2008 6:47PM EDT

Dean may be shorter than Sammy but he's bulked up since the other seasons too and Dean always kicks Sam's ass (well I like to think so) GO TEAM DEAN!

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 7:37AM EDT

Oh wow so many dean fans I liked sam from the start I hope he doesn't turn evil or if he does dean will probably turn him back to the god side and they'll be cool again the ratings will go down if they become enemy's and thats the way the show is gonna be either way I saw Jared and Jensen last time Sam isn't turning badhe calls it away.( I talked to them when they were filming in Canada)

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 7:37AM EDT

DON'T GET ME WRONG I MEANT "good" side lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 7:39AM EDT

And About your question He did care a whole lot he was crying when dean died he was crying his head off..... he even started using his powers to kill every demon out of anger as I see it.

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 10:10AM EDT

Yeah, in the last episode of season 3 he was obviously upset but I mean in the first episode of season 4 he was and still is in contact with Ruby, the one thing Dean told him not to do was use his powers and when Dean was sent to Hell, Sam goes behind his back and gets Ruby to help him. I mean the premier was set 6 months or something after it happened and he seemed to just be dossing about and gave up on Dean and instead focusing on his powers ... which may not be a positive thing (don't know for sure yet) but I was really annoyed at him, poor Dean was through Hell and back, literally, and he didn't seem to care enough to tell his brother the truth about using his powers and all that jazz. I don't know, I'm a little 'iffy' about Sam this season ... but hey, who knows what will happen .........

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 11:22AM EDT

Yeah he didn't seem too broken up, I think Bobby looked more shocked to see Dean than Sam was.
I like the idea of Dean coming back to keep an eye on Sam, and I've got a possible (read: totally whacky) idea as to why...
OK so Ruby is training Sam how to psychic his way through demons. But why? Ruby's intentions are never made clear, and her 'kindness' for humans seems a bit thin.
Now ask... why didn't Lilleth kill Sam? What stopped her?
Now ask yourself... why didn't Lilleth kill Ruby when she possessed Ruby's meat suit? Why "send her far away"?
I think Ruby and Lilleth are in collusion, and trying to unleash Lucifer (watch Ep 2 if you suddenly went "Huh???"). Ruby is training Sam to be Lucifer's body on Earth, with the ability to do all sort of nasties.
God knows this, and thinks Dean is the only one who could stop Sam when the time comes.
Yep, sounds crazy I know, but it ties up all the loose ends nicely.

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 2:04PM EDT

OMG dmpinder is a genius, dude that is a call and a half, u could be right.I reackon, what will happen is Sam will be lucifers meat suit, and Dean will have to fight him but will obviously stand no chance to which GOD comes into the picture, the reason god doesn't help little stuff that happens on the earth like murder is because its not putting humaninty in a crisis, to which now the Devil may be coming to town he will help dean against him... but Sam will die!What do you think?

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 3:12PM EDT

Hmm ... you know dmpinder you raise some interesting points ... really something to think about ... guess we'll have to wait and see what happens, although would Lucifer need a meat suit, I mean he is the Devil, right, doesn't that seem a bit 'ammature' for him, the all powerful source of evil?!

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 3:15PM EDT

good point Weej17 but that angel burned peoples eye by the sight of him, imagine what the devil would do, so he would want a suit i think!

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 3:23PM EDT

I suppose but if we are going into that discussion I think it's fair to bring up that the angel is only a messenger of God and would need a meat suit but would God? Like God would be the equivalent of the Devil so they are bound to be matched in what type of powers and all they have, and would God want to possess an innocent person (at the risk of killing that person in a fight) to defeat the Devil, I mean God is meant to be a symbol of protection from evil and everything...

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 3:33PM EDT

I do not think that God's powers are equivalent to the Devil's. Or whatever. God created everything so he is omnipotent. Duh. And also, God would win.

Default avatar cat
Sep 26, 2008 7:24PM EDT

yhyh i kno that dude but i mean, the angel is so powerful to humans that the sheer sight of him burns the eyes out so if the devil just popped up on earth people would just die, and the devil would want a suit i think! and god would probably possess someone to save there life of many more, and they wouldn't be trapped inside his head with nasty thought he would send them to a good place until he was done and wouldn't let anything happen to the body!

Default avatar cat
Sep 27, 2008 12:34PM EDT

you know, I believed that Dean was brought back to stop Sam when needed, but I never thought of the whole "Sam being Lucifer's body on earth" idea. I think that you might just be right! Hats off man, I think you might have just nailed this season :)

Default avatar cat
Sep 28, 2008 12:18PM EDT

Thanks for the nice comments guys, I just hope I haven't spoiled it for the series! I'm on the edge of my seat here like you.
A few thoughts about previous comments... I think you are right, God wouldn't need a meat suit, because he is just The Dude. The Angels don't always need suits, as Castiel said, his original form is just too overwhelming for most people.
I would love to see a God/Lucifer fight but I think that might just tip this show into the totally unbelievable, and probably alienate most of the viewers who aren't so into supernatural stuff.
But could you imagine... God vs. Lucifer, inhabiting the bodies of Dean and Sam? Dude, what a show.

Default avatar cat
Sep 28, 2008 4:27PM EDT

i kno yh it doesn't get much better then that!!! i have tried to get sooooooo many people to watch the show and most of them are just stubbon and wont!!! Man they dnt kno what they are missing.

Default avatar cat
Sep 28, 2008 7:13PM EDT

You're forgetting that in Mystery spot, Sam had to live with Dean being dead for years, he got stronger, colder. Not to mention working with Ruby was a distraction, and when he finally saw Dean, he was in shock that he was back.
To the person who said god vs. Lucifer inside Dean and Sam's bodies....dude! that would make freaking tv history.

Default avatar cat
Oct 1, 2008 6:04PM EDT

Just one thought, though... why would Lucifer care if everyone drops dead at his sight?? He's the incarnation of evil, he should be delighted to have such an easy job and everyone in hell just through his bare appearance... So he wouldn't need a meat suit.

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