Everybody is saying that Dean needs to get off his high horse and forgive Sam for breaking the final seal since he broke the first one. Is everybody forgetting that Dean was being carved up for 30 years.... 30 F@@@@@@G YEARS! Except for his dad, nobody can beat that record. Meanwhile Sam gave in to an addiction and betrayed his family, if anything Dean is stronger than Sam and I will be here all day, all week, all year to kick the a@@@s of anyone who says different.

[Edited for profanity; let's keep it clean, folks. TVQ]



Default avatar cat
Sep 14, 2009 7:13PM EDT

Well, yeah, you're right, sorta.

Dean is mad and not trusting of Sam though because of that he betrayed him for Ruby, and not so much about the Seal.
Let's face it, both Dean and Sam unwittingly broke the first and last seals, they can both forgive each other for that. They were manipulated.

It's again that Sam trusted Ruby over Dean, a demon, and Dean knew her endgame all along, and Sam wouldn't listen to Dean. THIS is why Dean can't trust Sam now.
The question is then can Dean forgive Sam for that, nothing to do with seals or high horses of blame games.
Of course, they'll both get over it, but it'll take a good while, and it should be enjoyable to watch, at the least.

Default avatar cat
Sep 14, 2009 7:53PM EDT

I agree with rick499!!!
in case ya'll forgot, the only reason Dean broke the first seal was because he traded his soul for Sam's life, otherwise he would never have been in hell. Sam owed Dean enough respect for that alone to at least obey his final wish for Sam not to follow that road with Ruby. The fact that he lied to Dean over and over about it, and then plainly went against him when he chose Ruby over Dean and nearly choked Dean out is the problem. It's not even that Sam broke the last seal. Its that all last season Sam lied and deceived him despite what he and the angels had told him, that what he was doing was wrong.
Dean's reaction of feeling unable to trust Sam doesnt mean he needs to get off his high horse and get over it, it means he's normal. Which one of you would trust family so soon after such a betrayal? and saying there are more important things to worry about is not an answer, we are talking about the Winchester brothers. theres always something bigger and badder going on, from season one Dean's let things slide by with Sam and shoved it aside to hunt, but nothing as big as being betrayed.
I love Sammy, but Dean's just right on this one.

Default avatar cat
Sep 14, 2009 9:46PM EDT

rick is right

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Sep 15, 2009 3:35PM EDT

woot, i so agreedeanie<3

Default avatar cat
Sep 16, 2009 3:22PM EDT

Finally! Like minded people... i agree completely

Default avatar cat
Sep 20, 2009 7:57AM EDT

i agree but i didnt really want them to split.

Sep 20, 2009 3:49PM EDT

Dean is right for being distrustful towards sam. Although Kimikim913. It's Dean's own fault that he broke the seal. Just because he went to hell for Sam doesn't make it his fault. Sam had no choice in the matter. Dean CHOSE to break the first seal by torturing souls. It was supposed to be his dad but he never broke. I can't wait to see what happens when they find God. I think that its funny that the necklace that dean wears all the time is a God finder! way to tie all the season together with something so small writers!

Default avatar cat
Sep 20, 2009 9:33PM EDT

Dean didn't know what he was doing would break the first seal you idiot, he didn't choose to break the first seal.

Default avatar cat
Sep 24, 2009 6:23PM EDT

while i agree with you rick499 that they need to lay off Dean, and that Dean has a right to distrust Sam, your argument falls short here. To be fair to Sam, he didn't know what he was doing would break the final seal... He thought he was stopping the final seal from ever being broken. So in the same argument you have just chosen to use, Sam didn't choose to break the final seal either.
However, the point is not the breaking of the seal. Dean distrusts Sam not for breaking the seal (Dean can forgive him for that)... His distrust stems from the fact that Sam chose Ruby (a demon) over his very own brother. That is the problem... not the apocalyptic results of Sam's poor choices.

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