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Heroes 'Dying of the Light': To power or not to power?

*"Dying of the Light" Spoilers Included!*


In Heroes this week, "Dying of the Light," it was time to dive a little further into the Petrelli mysteries as well as that of Hiro and Ando, plus of course plenty more.


But focusing on the particulars of the Petrellis and Hiro and Ando, we found out what really happened with Hiro and Ando, then moved along with their situation into Africa where they met Matt Parkman's friend who taught Hiro a little lesson - sometimes powers aren't the answer. So Hiro learned that sometimes he needs to use his mind over his powers as the best solution, and soon after as the episode concluded, we saw the Petrelli men to be even more trouble than we thought they could be even when we discovered Sylar was one of them as Mr. Petrelli took away Peter's powers!


So now is the theme going to be our heroes overcoming villains by not relying only on their powers? Future Peter said the problem of that version of the future was everyone having powers and using them to different means, so will the solution be for those who already have them to learn to better use and not use them so that powers never get to that level of out of control?


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Default avatar cat
Oct 27, 2008 3:25PM EDT
ahhhh! no kensei can't be dead! he was my favourite character and one of the coolest! think about it, hes lived 100s of years and has all the knowledge of those ages, if they can give peter back his abilities, they better bring back kensei/adam, it just seems stupid to make a character like that just be a means for Arthur to live again.
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Oct 25, 2008 6:03PM EDT
future peter told the present peter that sylar's abilitites would be a big help because most of the time, peter uses his heart and not his brain.when peter visited the future to get sylar's powers, sylar had to tell him because he really did not know what sylar's abilities were
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Oct 25, 2008 10:16AM EDT
yea i don't like it what is happening to mohinder not one bit and sylar rox hes cool and i hope peter gets his powers back soon coz i hate seeing him with out then heroes would suck..
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Oct 25, 2008 9:08AM EDT
tripleq if he just took the base ability how was aurthur able to use elle's power, it would seem that he totally stripped peter.
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Oct 25, 2008 6:39AM EDT
also i think that aurthur just took peters base ability , and this knoked out all his other powers
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Oct 25, 2008 6:19AM EDT
as aurhur stole adam monroes powers , wich are to this point the exact same as claires , then just like sylar cant die , either can aurthur .
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Oct 24, 2008 10:22PM EDT
This episode was great. I think I know why the future Peter tells the current Peter that he needs Sylar's ability -- because now when Arthur Petrelli absorbs all of Peter's abilities, he also absorbs Sylar's addictive/destructive one as well. It's sabotage. :) Also: I'm guessing that Peter and his father are biologically related since they both have similar abilities - absorption of other peoples' powers. The question is whether Peter's father took all the powers Peter had accumulated or his more useful ability to absorb the powers of those around him. If the former, then it would be logical that Peter could get back all the powers he lost just by being around his father, as well as take absorb his father's ability.
Default avatar cat
Oct 24, 2008 9:49AM EDT
I'm guessing Peter gets his powers back somehow. Could explain why he keeps on getting scars during segments involving the "future". Maybe he gets wounded when he fights with Arthur Petrelli?
Default avatar cat
Oct 24, 2008 8:51AM EDT
oh and people are going to comment on sylars use of teds power im epi 4, well i can only hasard a guess that they meet a new nuclear man n he re-takes the power or figures a way to repair his 'lost' powers. Oh..... i 'heart' sylar, ummm in a totally none gay way. :)
Default avatar cat
Oct 24, 2008 8:49AM EDT
livelifelove, according to a wiki page about sylar it says the shanti virus left sylar with only his original power and telekinisis, its unknown why this power has stuck with him, also on the first season when he was captured n studdied they say telekinisis is the only power they could find in him. Surgesting that when he takes powers he doesnt purmimenlty ingrave them, but more like pencles them in. Meaning the first one taken was taken differently than he now does in some way. yes i am a nerd n read all the pages on www.heroeswiki.com :P
Default avatar cat
Oct 23, 2008 5:00PM EDT
claire is so special.. there might be a way that she could beat him. her powers are evolving... or.. having not feel any pain was a side effect of uncle sylar's study? i think, just think that she is the most special of all.. and one more thing, sylar said,"poor girl, she doesn't even know how special she is"... Claire only knows that she has a regenerative ability.. what's more? we don't know and so doesn't she..but we'll seemaybe.. there are limits to Arthur's powers.. he may have complete control of them,.. but then, he cant get the powers of all heroes/villains and the "the one of us, one of them" is that.. one.. he cant get the power.. the other he can get the power..,the people he has given powers are those people he cant get the abilities he injected back..and he can get the the abilities of those who were naturally born with their abilitiesbut we'll see..soon
Default avatar cat
Oct 23, 2008 2:09PM EDT
NESA I completely agree with your theory on Sylar's ability not being able to be taken from just a hug. It makes alot of sense-I thought this when I saw the sneak peak in the scene between Arthur and Peter; Peter I thought was very angry, i.e. he still has the hunger therefore still has Sylar's power. One question though, when Sylar had the Shanti virus did he loose all of his abilities apart from telekinesis? Because he seems to have only used telekinesis this series. Also can any of Sylar's abilities be taken away? His ability is to figure out how things work... once he has figured it out he certainly can't unfigure it out, but then that did happen when he had the Shanti virus. Hmmm, its all very confusing.
Default avatar cat
Oct 23, 2008 12:41PM EDT
And - um, Claire can't for sure beat pappa-Petrelli, cause he can just take her power like he did with Adam. And then she's screwed.
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Oct 23, 2008 12:39PM EDT
How is Peter going to get his abilities back? First I thought he could just cut open pappa-Petrelli's head, and take his ability too, but there really wouldn't be any way that could be possible. And I've been wondering, that all the Petrelli guys have in some way - the ability to take other's powers. Peter gets them by 'meeting' the 'heroes', Sylar cuts their brain open, and pappa-Petrelli just takes them. I just really hope Peter doesn't die, cause then I wont have anything to watch on Heroes, cause I don't think it would be the same without him. So I guess there's going to be a really stupid twist, that'll allow Peter to get his abilities back. Or then he'll go meet Suresh and die. Unless the pappa-Petrelli kills him.
Default avatar cat
Oct 23, 2008 8:49AM EDT
Here's something to think about for you guys. Didn't you ever think, that powers like Peters', Gabriels' and Arthurs' (I would also add Haitian) are way different than others? I don't mean the obvious part, but it's like those are special among special. Powers affecting other powers, and without them being useless (except for Gabriels' one, which actually is my favourite taken away the hunger:) ) As we could see you can't just simply imitate Gabriels' ability, there's something more to it. Peter couldn't just take it. So why do you think it could be taken away that easly, with one... hug? I think Peter will keep Gabriel's power, and his own as well. But probably his power will be asleep or something, and he won't be able to use it for some time. My guess is he will still has the hunger, but while being completely harmless he will learn to control it without casualties. Possibly so will Gabriel who, suffice to say, is way smarter and way more in control of himself in general than Peter! All about Peter is emotional. This thing with powers can develop in many different ways though... Gabriel will now be tempted by Arthur, what we can see on ep 7 preview, but in the end he will prove to be his mothers' son. As he has always been, even with his foster mother. I think this whole season is about Gabriel, and about his choices. What i wonder is if in the end he will become a hero, decide to be a villain (something will change a future in one more way), or will he die as good character saving the day and the world..... About Nathan it's interesting what you are saying, I was thinking about it too..... The thing is, genes don't have to be inherited, or they don't have to express themselves in given generation. I think Nathan is more special than we know so far, but the one, who will inherit something even more interesting, something... special :) is his daugher, Clare. Do you think it's possible she can collect abilities too, in her own way ??.... In future Peter told his younger version, that there are 2 sides - people born with abilities and those who were given one... It's making me a bit confused, as we still don't know about Nathan and Clare. And for me most important of all in this season is blurring the difference between heroes and villains, good and evil. How can we possibly judge anyone? We can't, really. Especially by actions.... So by what, intensions??!! Well:) Probably every ones intention is good in a way.... But their knowledge is limited.... It's about consequences of their actions, the one with most dire should be stopped. Unless story develop into something plain and simple, what would be shame, really. But we already know, that main antagonist, person who have to be stopped, is Arthur.....
Default avatar cat
Oct 23, 2008 12:57AM EDT
Powers Well Peter still got this ability to understand coz Syler always had it and he didnt even know. And its not really ability to understand because when Peter was in future and he came to syler he didnt absorb Syler powers Syler told him what to do and fix the watch which means if Syler gonna cut of Arthurs head and let peter look at brain then Peter gonna get his powers back ?
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 10:07PM EDT
nice comment livelifelove..and eprothmaybe.. because of that evolution, claire will be the only one who could stop grandpa arthur..
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Oct 22, 2008 10:00PM EDT
nice comment livelifelove..and eprothmaybe.. because of that evolution, claire will be the only one who could stop grandpa arthur..
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 8:55PM EDT
GETTING POWERS BACK Peter has lost his powers and from the sneak peaks that have just been posted we know that Arthur thinks that Peter won't get them back. But also from the sneak peaks we find out that Elle's and Claire's powers are evolving. This evolution would be unprecedented in the Heroes series, so it can be assumed that nobody would know about it, including Arthur Petrelli!! If Elle's and Claire's powers are evolving who is to say that Peter's powers won't also evolve without Daddy knowing it. I also believe that the fact that Claire is a third generation "Hero" might be the reason she is so special. I'm also really interested in the Eclipse (maybe I'm ranting). But what exactly is the significance of it? Its the logo of the series, it was seen in the first episode, Hiro saw it in feudal Japan. There are two episodes devoted to it coming up and hopefully they will shed light on the subject (excuse the pun). Ooh is it related to their powers? What do you think?
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 7:13PM EDT
What if only one of peter's power was taken? and was just in shock of what just happened that he couldn't bring forth another one of his abilities? Mohinder is really out of control...i don't like him very much anymore. Is Mya dead? or in a comma? Sylar is too nice but i guess thats the whole excitement of it all. This episode was great as all of the rest!!!
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 5:43PM EDT
in season 1, linderman was real. in this season, linderman is just an illusion created by Mr. parkman(matt's dad).stof1984: that was after the training by claude. when he met linderman, he wasn't trained yet.. ok.. he can copy powers without knowing them.. thanks! because he copied angela's power without knowing them anyway..i dont think there would be an injection scene to peter..his dad might give it back to him..
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 3:48PM EDT
Nathan doesn't have any powers except flight,peter will get injected and get his powers backpeter has the power of healing from linderman which is how he healed linderman.and at the end of the season sylar and peter will team up against Arthur petrellii.e good will triumph over evil.
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 3:06PM EDT
isnt it a possibility that peter might have taken arthur's power when he used on him? n though arthur took all his pwer that he already had peter got his powers as the only one.
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 12:14PM EDT
purpleprincess peter takes everyones power even if he dont know it for example. Season one, took teds didnt know... took speedster didint know. took invisibility didnt know. Took future dreams didint know. I wont go on. Its possible peter had a linderman type power to heal as it was future peter who was at his bedside n we will never know the amount of powers that virsion of peter had as he in now dead.
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Oct 22, 2008 10:56AM EDT
But Linderman was real in the first series?
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 8:09AM EDT
no.. another one who could resurrect the dead.. linderman was just an illusion that matt's dad created this season.peter had met linderman but by that time, he did not know what linderman's powers were.. i don't think he can mimic the powers he has not seen.wasnt claire's ability given to her too?she might be the only solution...
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Oct 22, 2008 7:52AM EDT
"...somebody, who had the powers to make the dead live again..." Wasn't that what Linderman did?I thought Peter cured Nathan at the beginning. I was sure someone cured someone else before, but there have been so many twists, maybe I just got mixed up. If Peter met Linderman (who definitely COULD do that) then he'd have the power. I'm convinced someone got revived by someone else.Maybe Suresh is the key - his powers are not natural, but monsterously created. Maybe he can defeat Arthur because Arthur can't control him.
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Oct 22, 2008 7:47AM EDT
Presumably if they can get the Haitian near ol man Petrelli then they'll be able to kill him.Also, couldn't Hiro just jump back a few days and warn Adam?
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 7:00AM EDT
yeah!i_enjoy_heroes! i might stop watching it too if peter will be off..claire can never die... she might stop arthur that is why she is so special..everybody hid her because she is the only one arthur cant defeat.. remember in season one? "save the cheerleader, save the world.."her real powers, might not have been revealed yet..and.. as to nathan's powers, maybe, he was given the ability to fly so that he will hide his real powers which is the same as his father's
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 6:50AM EDT
If peter is taken off I will stop watching the show completely. He is one my my favorite characters and I am certain the same is true for many other people who enjoy watching heroes.
Default avatar cat
Oct 22, 2008 12:53AM EDT
Doesn't Claire's blood have healing powers? Wouldn't Peter's blood have those same powers (prior to losing them of course), since he adopted her ability? I've always wondered why he didn't use this gift to heal his brother... or did he? It was also Claire's blood that healed Sylar after he lost his abilities - or rather had them taken away from him - and restored them. Maybe that would work for Peter too? Sylar would definitely remember what brought back his own abilities, and he's been so eager to help and prove that he's really a good guy lately... he might tip off Peter... It looks like presently, abilitywise, Sylar is the only one who is theoretically powerful enough to face Arthur (since Hiro refuses to go back in time again and Peter lost everything). Unless... they bring in the Haitian to neutralize everybody's powers so that, indeed, everyone has to go back to using their brains instead of relying on their powers... I don't think that this is really going to happen, yet the Haitian might be useful in bringing down Arthur. I am sure Mohinder is going to find his way again, just like Sylar did. He is not a monster by nature, it's this shot that he took that made him so... and like Sylar, after a while he will find out how to suppress his urges. Or he will find some kind of antidote, who knows... but I am sure he will be back to his old good-hearted self.
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 9:34PM EDT
It was good episode, it messes up everyones theroies on whos who, and whats what, i got a theory on the cop who reads minds, i belive he is the most important character, with his mind he can stop attacks taking place, i.e sylar can be stopped by side tracking his thoughts onto things close to his heart, an upbringin of child.
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 7:53PM EDT
yeah peter and hero are my favorite characters i hate it that they took his powers away it sucks. but maybe thats why future peter wanted him to get the hunger power so that his dad would have it. If he does take the formula i will give him back his old powers to copy other peoples abilites. I just want his powers back cause he is a great character. I do love it how sylar is a good guy now i just hope he stays that way and that peter and sylar join forces.
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 6:55PM EDT
i think.. just think that...angela might be the reason why arthur "died" and he really did die but then, somebody, who had the powers to make the dead live again might have had made him live again. then, now, his heart is full of hatred and its his turn to revenge,... angela might have been very scared of arthur stealing and making powers...that's whydid the company started after arthur's death? because, pinehearst maybe the first group then angela killed her husband then created another group..just like Angela, Arthur's favorite son is peter. when peter came to him, he realized that he has the hunger so he had to take peter's ability. they took sylar for an adoption because he was very dangerous. i'm very scared... they said that we will lose a major character in this season.. would it be peter?
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Oct 21, 2008 6:49PM EDT
The thing I hated with this episode was Hiro once again. The lesson that using your brain instead of your power is the correct path seemed stupid to me. Hiro still could've paused time and gotten him. He didn't need to not pause time. It was just another way to help explain Hiro's stupid actions. They have to dumb down his character and put restrictions on him or he would just be too powerful. I am glad they added the speedster so that there would be less limits on his power because he would have a powerful nemesis but we haven't seen him acting any smarter.
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Oct 21, 2008 4:44PM EDT
Maybe the reason Nathan didn't have the gene for special abilities like Peter and Sylar do is because he's only their half-brother? What If he isn't Arthur Petrelli's biological son! After all, Angela certainly had an affair with Hiro's dad, maybe she had other affairs too. Affairs leading to the birth of a son. Or maybe Nathan is like Nikki, Tracy and Barbara. Maybe he was just taken from an orphanage and injected with powers or something. It would explain why he didn't have the gene when both Peter and Sylar seem to. Thoughts?
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 3:45PM EDT
NATHAN's ABILITIES The important question still lingers on how Nathan came back from the dead in the hospital. I believe an answer to this question will arrive in the next few weeks AND that it will be related to his brother's and father's abilities... We will not know whether or not he will have a similar ability until this question on how he didn't die is answered.
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 3:23PM EDT
hey u guys i don't think that Nathan would have an ability to take abilities its only Sylar and peter,, because in the original script Nathan and peter were supposed to be twins but thy weren't so i guess Sylar would turnout to be his twin or something.and about peter not getting his ability back that's nonsense because hes like the main character
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Oct 21, 2008 2:57PM EDT
"so basically they have just taken the "hunger" away from peter." very very true.... i personally don't think peter's loss of power will be permanent but it MIGHT last a little while. it would suck if peter lost his powers forever. i don't think nathan has a similar ability to peter or sylar because i mean nathan's power was given to him... actually is it possible that arthur petrelli gave nathan his power? i mean for now they're saying that the doctor did it but if arthur has the power to take away powers, he should have the power to give powers to people.
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Oct 21, 2008 2:49PM EDT
ABOUT NATHAN!!! Okay so the main thing that we've learned from this episode is that Arthur Petrelli has the power to take abilities from people (very similar to Peter's and Sylar's ability). Strangely enough Nathan does not have this type of ability... or does he!!! Nobody knew that Sylar had an ability until recently, and some even believe that he was given up for adoption because Angela and Arthur also thought he didnt have an ability. We also know that Nathan was given his power of flight because he previously had no special ability. But the fact that his two brothers and his father have the same type of that allows them to "sponge", steal or figure out another persons ability leads me to strongly believe that Nathan also has a similar ability. Does anybody agree... Also this may answer the question as to how Nathan was able to heal himself after he died on the operating table at the start of the series: he used Peter's ability to heal. So what do you think???
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 12:59PM EDT
Now that Peter's father has taken his abilities, Peter can start acting like the good guy he is i think. Like "African Isaac" was saying maybe not relying on your powers is the way to go. But DAddy Petrelli is basically the villian of this arc for sure, i mean he immobilized his wife, stripped his son of his powers, he had his other son Nathan injected so he could have powers, and he ensembled a group that is worthy of the title League of Doom. That DNA symbol was on Peter's forearm when he got tattoed, and on Nikki's shoulder when she got crazy, i think the ppl that have that marking were given the formula to have powers. But we will see. Furhtermore, what is Noah doing?! Inviting Claire's bio. mom to work with him! Potenial for an affair. The haitian is the best guy to work with cuz he cancels out powers, in fact the haitian is like a one man team. The haitian should get more screen time.
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 11:11AM EDT
i dont know what to think...its an interesting storyline with peter getting his powers away, but i think its gonna be even more interesting to see what Sylar will do...i like his character development the most this season, especially since last season he didnt do anything....also with Arthur and Angela....i think its not a question as to whose the villian, but whose the lesser of two evils....we shall see...Primatech Vs. Pinehearst.....
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Oct 21, 2008 10:06AM EDT
so basically they have just taken the "hunger" away from peter.
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Oct 21, 2008 10:00AM EDT
I have a feeling that peter will get his powers back but not all at once, hell inject him self with the formula and get his original power back then hell start collecting them all again. Just a way of the writers to make peter not ultimately powerful and so he can get ride of sylars power. But if that is right kind of seems pointless him getting it in the 1st place.
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Oct 21, 2008 9:27AM EDT
i dont think arther got the hunger because as we have seen hes so powerfull already maybe he can control it but i have a feeling sylar will stop him but where have to wait
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Oct 21, 2008 8:40AM EDT
surely though if that bloke stole peters powers, doesnt he now have the "hunger" hopefully he goes on a killing rampage or peter somehow manages to get his powers back, i reaaly hope peter doesnt leave in this season, him and syler are the best characters by far, wanna see them working together.
Default avatar cat
Oct 21, 2008 8:15AM EDT
this weeks heros was def one for the books i mean first adam getting well what it looked like aged by arthur and i guess he took all the life out of him for himself we saw hero was not was bad as we thought who would had knew :P but sylar has his head on right peter was not ready to go when he went he lost his powers now sylar needs to get something done to save there mother this season i think will just build up into like vilans vs heros yet they can pick what side they want, but arther i mean what other powers does this guy have hes like invincible everyone is scared of him i mean i cant wait to see this unfold
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Oct 21, 2008 8:07AM EDT
It’s going to be interesting <a href=” see how Arthur’s power pans out</a> and who is going to be left to oppose him. I thought the promo last week said (or maybe I read it somewhere) that we were going to learn why Claire was special this episode. But all we saw her healing power again. Did I miss something? And how exactly did Daphne race into Level 5? Don’t they have security, scans, locks?
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Oct 21, 2008 5:50AM EDT
which side is really villainous?angela's or arthur's?
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Oct 21, 2008 5:47AM EDT
peter loses his powers.is it just temporary or permanent?i am bit worried because he is one of my favorites..would we lose peter this season?about mohinder, he is very monstrous and hate him for that..and i'm liking sylar..what will happen next? can anybody
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